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NCT saying consider not ttc

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LeninGrad Sun 19-Jul-09 14:19:08

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scienceteacher Sun 19-Jul-09 14:20:02

I thought they were saying don't put off plans to ttc

OracleInaCoracle Sun 19-Jul-09 14:25:38

how ridiculous. you may as well never start, what if you come into contact with someone with cp, or eat some soft cheese, or have a glass of wine....

LeninGrad Sun 19-Jul-09 14:26:50

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LIZS Sun 19-Jul-09 14:27:26

hmm I thought they were contradicting apparent advice from the College of Midwives

EldonAve Sun 19-Jul-09 14:28:54

The NCT website claims they are quoting DoH advice: "The Department of Health advises that it may be sensible for those trying for children to consider delaying conception whilst the pandemic is going on"

OracleInaCoracle Sun 19-Jul-09 14:29:59

for crying out loud. stoopid! once again its that assumption that the second you throw out the condoms you will get pg.

ScummyMummy Sun 19-Jul-09 14:30:18

NCT overreaction included in this report. I think the NCT will feel embarrassed about this one, tbh.

thegrammerpolice Sun 19-Jul-09 14:51:33

If I delay ttc for several years I'll be too old anyway....sad.

happywomble Sun 19-Jul-09 14:52:53

this will ease the pressure on school places in a few years time!

Reallytired Sun 19-Jul-09 18:08:13

erm... loads of babies are surprises

I had a really nasty bout of seasonal flu while pg. my dd is fine

CrimsonLeaf Sun 19-Jul-09 18:28:47

I think its pretty stupid advice. There's all manner of things you can get while pregnant, whenever you do it. I'm ttc now and it won't put me off, even though, like everyone, I do worry about getting it as well as dd, who is 18 months. Nobody wants to be ill but seasonal flu is also a killer!

islandofsodor Tue 21-Jul-09 11:15:35

One part of the full quote taken out of context.

This is the email I had from Belinda

There seems to have been an outbreak of unwarranted panic this morning in some of
the media.

What has appeared to happen is some journalists have come across some of the
basic biological facts of pregnancy – already known to us who are NCT involved.

Namely that when you are pregnant your immune system is slightly suppressed so
you are slightly more likely to catch any infection that's going – and because
swine flu is prevalent you are slightly more likely to catch that.

The other aspect of your immune system being slightly depressed is that any
illness you do catch may be slightly worse or more difficult to shake off. This
is as true of swine flu as it is of any other infectious disease.

It has always been the case that those coming into contact with pregnant women
should be aware of this and avoid them if they have an infection – this is part
of normal considerate behaviour.

The measures being suggested about tissues and coughing and sneezing and hand
washing are effective in reducing the transmission of many infective diseases so
should be part of everyone's life swine flu or no swine flu.

Small children and babies do not have immune systems that function to the level
of a healthy adult and children have not been exposed to many of the illnesses
that adults are already immune to. They are therefore more likely to catch
infections. As with pregnant women those with infections are, as part of normal
considerate behaviour, expected to avoid close contact with young babies.

We also know that mother and baby being together and the baby or child being
breastfed helps reduce the risk of infection and probably the severity of
illness. This is because the mother will be exposed to the same infections as
her child and her more sophisticated immune system will trigger antibodies etc
which through her breast milk will help protect her child. We also know that
breastmilk itself also contains factors which support and protect a child by
providing optimal nutrition matched to the baby's age and stage and by
supporting the immune system of the child. This is a biological fact which is
true for swine flu as it is for other infections.

There are some infections which we know are very risky in pregnancy but swine
flu does not seem to be one of these. For example Rubella (which is commonly
known as German measles) is an infection which is very serious for the baby if a
pregnant mother catches it but now vaccination is offered widely to reduce the
prevalence of the disease and the risk of a woman catching it.

As far as conception is concerned, the Department of Health in its original
guidance suggested that those planning an IVF pregnancy might want to delay.
But now it is clear that swine flu looks to be a mild illness for all but the
already seriously sick. Therefore they have revised their guidance. They are
not suggesting delay.

In considering a pregnancy women will take many things into account. They may
wait till after their holiday, their house move or their own age or the age of
an older child might be the most important factor for them. Knowing that there
will be a lot of swine flu about in the autumn is one factor that some women
might consider in a small way among many other factors. This is no real change
from the way people planning parenthood would go about deciding when to start a

It is important that those expecting a baby and those caring for a child have
information so they can make up their own minds what to do.

The NCT does not advise people what decisions to take. It does however provide
help once someone has made up their minds what they want to do and what to know
how to do it.

Hope that helps

Belinda Phipps

LeninGrad Wed 22-Jul-09 10:20:08

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