So sad :-(

[Sleepingbunnies]

Some of you may remember last year I started a thread about a lone guinea pig at a party my eldest DD went to... (don't know how to link)...

Just chatting to the friend, and I mentioned our girls have been in with all the bad weather (6 inches of snow here)... I made the stupid mistake of asking after the piggy I so desperately wanted to adopt :(

She said they havent changed anything with regards to him... he is outside... All on his own... And I know this is stupid but I almost cried and I again asked if I could have him! Her reply was 'don't start all that again'

So now having just given my girls some treats and cuddles I just feel so sad for him!

God, I need a slap! I can do nothing about it, don't even know why I'm posting tbh... Maybe just needed to say I wish people wouldn't get pets they dot fucking want or can't look after as good as me at all!!

Rant over....

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

I remember this thread- I thought you were going to say that the little boar had died.

thing is his life in winter would be worse. I bet those grandchildren won't be so keen to take him out or play with him.

But say it on here- people shouldn't get pets that they don't want to look after or CBA finding out about how to look after. (I'm sure alot of people benefit greatly from Super Furry. I wasn't boar savvy , but I did posting and searches on t'internet before they came to live with us)

Poor little guy- will he survive the winter? he's managed so far but I've noticed this year is worse than last year.


Must stop looking on GumTree too.
Blood pressure.

[Sleepingbunnies]

When I think about how much more looking after my girls need in winter, with regards to cleaning etc it makes me so fucking angry that he should be tucked up safe and warm :(

[guineapiglet]

Hi both - have just posted on the other guinea thread about this very topic - why on earth do people bother - the answer is that they are not willingly cruel, but they just dont get animals AT ALL or understand their needs - it is a kind of negligence, but basically their lives are full of other things and animals are way down on their list. ( Or they get them to please the kids who have no knowledge of how to look after them - this is why I think there should be more checks. When we got our rescue dog we were interrogated about 5 times, home checked etc -)

I know how much we all worried about this little chap when you tried so hard to get him - Im sure there are so many little souls out there who are sad and lonely - so make the most of your happy, contented guineas, they deserve it:)

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

It's not just the cold and damp though. He's alone isn't he?
Your girls have got each other to cuddle, chat to (scrap with )

My boys were in Fri (because we had snow and I reckoned the school would close so I might have to dash off) and Sunday because it was grim.

But I was out putting their heater and heat pads out 30 mins before they went.
Surprisingly their water hasn't frozen overnight.

But indoors, they've got less space so DD and I have given them lots of cuddle and chat.
They are hard work (especially at 6.30am ) but they're faaaaamily.

[ratbagcatbag]

Can you not steal him and rehome him (obv once snows gone so no footprints) I might know someone that did this with a really poorly neglected dog, it was kept outside in a tiny pen covered in muck, she offered to buy it they said no, she reported it and nothing happened and it was outside innall weathers :( in the end she might have rang someone she knew miles away on a farm and taken it there. Not the best plan but sometimes you can see why people do it. Dogs living life of Riley now.

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

ratbag we tried to co-erce the OP into PigNapping him last summer.
But it would've been mighty suspicious if he'd gone missing.


You know how sometimes some posts stick in your memory- just a line or a phrase?
The one that struck me and lodged in my head was the owner (it wasn't the op's friend IIRC it was her friends mum) saying "I don't even like him that much".

So sad.
That and the Guinea-Pig in the Bucket (not an out & out cruelty case. More the owners got over-run and overwhelmed. And had to separate a boar .Neglect really)

[Sleepingbunnies]

ratbag you have no idea how much I want to... I offered to buy him last year and I was told the grandchildren like to play with him when they go to the nans house :(

The rest of the time he is ignored... :(

I'v got to put him out if my head but I feel awful tonight...

Think it's because I'm with my own thoughts!! Damn DP for being at work and damn DDs for being asleep!!

[Sleepingbunnies]

YY to 70 I remember her saying that :(

[BonkeyMollocks]

:(

I feel myself getting all ranty again!

[Sleepingbunnies]

I saw your other post on that thread bonkey I agree with everything you said... :(

[BonkeyMollocks]

Sleeping Have you offered to take him again?

Threaten the guinea police! (aka the MN Super Furry Massive)

[Sleepingbunnies]

I did bonkey she said to 'stop trying to make me
Feel bad, I can't MAKE my mum give him to you!' and laughed to keep it lighthearted :(

I feel really bad for the poor little thing...

[BonkeyMollocks]

Ditch the friend and threaten the mum!

[BonkeyMollocks]

Have you spoken to the mum again?

I rescued a horse once - I tried for weeks non stop until the bastard finally gave in! I actually think he wanted to get rid on me more than anything else but it worked!

[Sleepingbunnies]

:( I hate thinking of him there all alone, no friends, probably fucking freezing... Why do people do it??!

[silver73]

Report to the RSPCA their guidance say that pigs should not be kept alone.

[BonkeyMollocks]

Silver Rspca will just 'give them advice' and more than likely leave them to it!

I have no faith in them whatsoever!

Said horse ^ had a pussing bleeding abbess under her chin - was bones and could barely stand - all in the middle of winter and they did naff all! :(

That said - what it may do is push the mum to give him him up!

[Sleepingbunnies]

They won't do anything... I know they won't, to them it will be 'just' a guinea

[namechangecity]

I would kidnap it - needs must.

[Sleepingbunnies]

I can't. There's no way of getting into the garden...

[Sleepingbunnies]

< wonders if a piggy nap is actually possible >

[silver73]

Maybe make up a story asking to "borrow" him for a few days as a companion for your girls? Once he is gone she will notice there is no work to be done cleaning out and feeding etc and then offer to buy him off her?

[KRITIQ]

Ha, I suddenly remembered a "dog nap" I was an accessory to told about that had a very happy outcome for said dog!

It's so hard not to think about this pig, and all the others, and the buns and even the dogs, cats, horses and heaven knows what other animals obtained as toys or ornaments or status symbols or all three. Since I was a child, I've always felt that you can tell alot about how humane a person is with other people by the way they treat animals. Now, I know some people don't like animals, or have an issue with a specific type of animal (e.g. spiders, snakes, even dogs,) but so long as they choose not to take responsibility for looking after one, that's not an issue.

The older I get, the less patience I have with people who are cruel like this wondering if I am turning into my mother who actually didn't like animals much, but was less inclined to suffer fools gladly the older she got! :) I think I'd have given the awful excuse for a human an earful.

Yes, perhaps offer to look after/bath/some excuse the little guy and just refuse to give him back. They're hardly likely to call the police. It sounds like the kind of "friend" it would be worth shedding anyhow, so I won't worry about pissing them off.

The RSPCA have their hands tied a bit. Regulations are really minimal when it comes to the keeping of most animals. For pigs and buns, it's mostly just having a bare minimum size enclosure, food and water (which could have just been put there for the visit.)

[fortifiedwithtea]

This is of course but would it make the little fella even more depressed to experience a kind warm home with other pigs for a short while and then return him to an unsatisfactory home?

At the beginning of your post sleepingbunnies I expected you to have said he had died from the cold. And I think you must prepare yourself, for this maybe the outcome of his sad situation .

[silver73]

If you can manage to look after him for a bit I doubt they will want him back. Could you make an excuse that you want your girlies to have babies so he would need to live with you for a time? If she does not like him then she will be happy to not have to do anything for him surely?

We could learn some lessons from Sweden - do you think the power of mumsnet could help?

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