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what size do i order? eu sizes

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mercurymaze Fri 09-Feb-18 21:13:21

i am a 14 and want these but what do i order ? 40-42? size guide not much help here

CountFosco Fri 09-Feb-18 21:18:50

I'm a size 10 (or 12 in old money) and wear a 38. For a 14 I'd assume a 42.

mercurymaze Fri 09-Feb-18 21:26:45

perhaps i should get the 42-44 then

jelliedeel Fri 09-Feb-18 21:38:09

In some countries the 10 is a 36, others a 38.

MissWimpyDimple Fri 09-Feb-18 23:55:41

10 is 38, 12 is 40, 14 is 42

H&M get that wrong though and call 36 a 10. It's not. It's an 8.

MissWimpyDimple Fri 09-Feb-18 23:56:01

Oh and friend from Sweden agrees with me.

EmmaGrundyForPM Sat 10-Feb-18 00:00:07

MissWimpy that would explain why everything I try on in H&M is far too small!

Ofthread Sat 10-Feb-18 00:55:08

Just to make it more confusing, in Italy a 38 - 6, 40 - 8, 42 is a 10 etc

BubblesBuddy Sat 10-Feb-18 01:40:40

The EU sizing varies according to country. Italy is definitely on the small side! Size 14 should be 42 or 40 if s generous cut. Web site should have a size conversion chart.

PenguinsandPandas Sat 10-Feb-18 01:45:50

I would say 40-42 is 12-14 so it will be size 14.

Pistachiois50pmore Sat 10-Feb-18 03:58:17

When people talk about "European" sizing they often mean French which is quite widely used, but it does vary country to country. Italian 42 is a 10. Net a Porter have a good guide on their site. I have worked in few womens retail stores and thought it seemed accurate.

IlonaRN Sat 10-Feb-18 07:33:27

Strangely, I usually find a 38 fits me, but may need either 8 or 10 here in the UK.

Gwenhwyfar Sat 10-Feb-18 12:26:35

"10 is 38, 12 is 40, 14 is 42

H&M get that wrong though and call 36 a 10. It's not. It's an 8."

No, they're right. A 38 is supposed to be a 12, but size inflation here has changed that. If you're a 14 under size inflation, then yes a 42 is right. If you're a 14 from a few years ago or from a shop that still has smaller sizes such as a teenage shop, it would be different.

Ofthread Sun 11-Feb-18 16:25:46

Isn’t H&M Swedish? And if they follow Swedish/Danish sizing in that case then a 36 IS a size 10. See also Cos. There is no standard EU size, is there?

KatharinaRosalie Sun 11-Feb-18 17:23:41

I wear a lot of Esprit. It's German sizing, not French, so go for 40-42, or you could probably also fit in 38-40.

Trills Sun 11-Feb-18 17:25:52

All I can say about H&M is that their 40, which they call a 12, is comparable to what nearly all other shops call a 10 or a 38.

It doesn't matter whether anyone is technically "correct", it matters whether they are effectively communicating with their customers, and they are not.

Gwenhwyfar Mon 12-Feb-18 00:15:00

"All I can say about H&M is that their 40, which they call a 12, is comparable to what nearly all other shops call a 10 or a 38."

I disagree with 'nearly all'. Yes, they have smaller sizes than middle aged shops, but not necessarily than young shops like Top Shop. Many of their customers are young so I suppose they are communicating with their customers. Their customers' idea of small, medium and large is going to be very different to the one of 60 year old M&S customers where the sizes are very large.

Trills Mon 12-Feb-18 08:27:33

I mis-wrote that there. I meant that their 12 is a 38, and a 38 is usually a 10, as @Gwenhwyfar says.

If we compare the size guides, and we look at TopShop to be sure we're not looking at "Middle-aged" shops.

Topshop size guide for dresses

UK 10 = EU 38 = bust 34.3, waist 27.2, hips 36.8
UK12 = EU 40 = bust 36.2, waits 29.2, hips 38.8

H&M size guide for dresses

UK 12 = EU 38 = bust 34 1/2, waist 28 1/2, hips 37 3/4

A H&M 12 is smaller than a Topshop 12 in all measurements.
A H&M 12 is the same size around the bust as a Topshop 10.

If you read the UK sizes, H&M don't come up small compared to middle-aged shops, they come up small compared to Topshop.

Trills Mon 12-Feb-18 08:30:06

Ugh, trying to rectify a mistake and making a new mistake., Gwen was quoting someone and disagreeing with them.
Who was saying it?
@MIssWimplyDimple - I agree with you that H&M are being silly in making a 38 and calling it a 12. They would do better to call it a 10.
Or just write in the EU sizes and let us figure things out for ourselves.

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