Affordable eye cream for 39yo to ease crows feet wrinkles

[WingDefence]

Hi - as I'm heading to 40 I've started to notice crows feet wrinkles and I thought it was probably a good idea to start supplementing my normal moisturiser (just Simple day cream at the moment) with something a bit more specific.

Trouble is I'm finding it almost impossible to find recommendations and also which cream is best for what I want. E.g. looking at the Boots No 7 range I can't find out which one is best for women in their 20s/30s/40s etc so can't make a decision on which to buy. (I live in rurally and went to Boots specifically yesterday to ask and there was noone on the No 7 counter.)

Affordable to me is something preferably less than £20 - I don't usually spend a huge amount on my beauty regime so this feels like an extravagance already! I do have dark circles but this isn't a huge concern for me - these lovely smile lines are the biggest issue.

Any help gratefully received

[WingDefence]

Bump?

[AprilLoveJ]

Absolute waste of money on a temporary plumping effect.

Ask your gp or try a trusted overseas pharmacy for tretinoin gel. Scientifically proven to reduce wrinkles not just plump them out. Check pubmed articles. Go low and slow to begin with or lowest strength once or twice a week. Also try organic castor oil or coconut oil to moisturise. Will also help lashes and eyebrows grow.

The inside is just as if not more important. Adequate protein and hydration (milk and OJ not just water) essential as well as vitamin c. Vitamin k may help with dark circles.

Loss of progesterone and excess estrogen will lead to dry, thin wrinkled skin. Reducing stress and eating nutritionally will ensure you keep your levels more in balance.

[WeeM]

Following as I would like something too! I have the body shop elderflower eye gel which I like but I don't think it's designed as an anti wrinkle aid-more for puffiness.

[AprilLoveJ]

Also these kind of creams are full of chemicals which are not only estrogenic but damaging to the skin. A few out there have a couple of useful ingredients but not enough to outweigh the disadvantages of the rest of the ingredients. The beauty industry is a money making industry. Some things are useful, make up and hair products, the rest are just worthless and toxic and can't compare to what nature already offers. But they can't patent nature, can they?

[KanyesVest]

I haven't got as far as the eye cream yet I'm too lazy but I got eucerin volume filler day and night creams as recommended on a previous thread and it's great. Even using just the day cream made a huge difference for me.

[TheTartOfAsgard]

I swear by Avon anew eye, day and night cream. Been using the 25+ since February and crows feet are gone, skin is aoft and not had a single spot

[WingDefence]

Thanks for the advice so far. April I eat a healthy, balance diet getting my 5-7 a day but that's interesting about milk and OJ not just water. What do you mean by a 'trusted overseas pharmacy'?

Where do you get that Kanye?

Thanks TheTart - I get some Avon make up already so I'll look out for the next brochure. I like the way they clearly set out their creams by age but had completely forgotten about Avon. Although now I'm wondering if it's all a con like April said and what the actual differences are!

[KanyesVest]

It's a pharmacy brand here, although boots doesn't stock it (I'm in Ireland). I think it might be on amazon. (Sorry, I'm on holidays with shit internet coverage so can't open more than one tab at a time to link)

[prettywhiteguitar]

Geoff's pharmacy for tretioin 0.025% it's the only thing that doesn't just smooth the skin but actively seems to make a difference. Although I'm off to Sciliy soon so stopped using it as don't want to burn, it makes you more sensitive to sun.

[WingDefence]

Thanks both. I'll look those both up.

[AprilLoveJ]

Just that some sites are pretty dodgy. I know a reliable one that I used for many years, but I'm unsure if should list it here? Is it okay or frowned on? There are often import charges however which can make them pricey. Would try gp first. Heck I got some off eBay once. I have no wrinkles, but I used it to help get rid of my many acne indentation scars (along with other treatments) Since I overhauled my diet and began balancing hormones my skin has never been smoother or plumper. I even got ID'd for the lottery in Morrisons. (Am 31) I use a little organic coconut oil or castor oil before primer on days I wear make up but other than that I use nothing. I did actually have 2 mild forehead wrinkles in my early twenties when my diet was bad (horrific actually) I over exercised incessantly and had terrible hormone problems. The acne scar treatments helped but it was changing my insides that gave me the best skin. I eat/drink an insane amount of protein. As we age we lose collagen, but you're far better off making your own inside your body than putting it in on your face.

These lotions and potions can certainly make visible differences but unless they contain an adequate amount of something like retin a or tretinoin, it is not changing the skin structurally but plumping it out. So if you were to stop using it then you would soon end up back at wrinkle central. I see these things as masking rather than treating the root cause of wrinkles. That is a-okay if it's what people want, sometimes I even want to buy them because they smell and look so good. In fact I used them as a youngster. But now I like to use my limited budget on things I know will make a difference. (I am open to Botox though when the day comes.) Now I use a little organic coconut oil or castor oil when I wear make up (before I put my primer on) and I do sometimes use Nip and Fab glycol face wash to get a deep clean and get rid of dead skin, but mostly use Dr Bronner baby wash. That's all. The rest goes inside!

I actually had a couple of wrinkles on my forehead in early twenties when I ate badly (horrifically actually) and over exercised and had terrible hormone problems. Ironically I was using anti wrinkle creams during this time too. So I've seen with my own eyes what really works. I'm not afraid to get old but after having acne I do like to care for my skin. It will never be perfect but I'd to feel comfortable in it.

[user1467007852]

For a night out which lasts ten hours I'd suggest instantly ageless, it literally wipes away wrinkles. I used it on my mum who is 60. It was amazing. Other than that my partner bought me Creme de la mer as I'm 37 and I was moaning about the same thing but I think it's just Nivea in a glass bottle!

[user1467007852]

Does it really work? You'd deffo recommend it?

[AprilLoveJ]

There are some excellent articles on tretinoin (or the retinoids in general) online if you google. They explain how they work at a cellular level much better than I could.

You do have to be careful though. It is highly irritating and do not go in the sun under any circumstances whilst using it. Not only will you burn more easily, damage your skin but you may develop melasma patches also. You are sloughing off a lot of the top of the skin leaving the underneath more vulnerable and exposed, particularly to sun damage. It takes a lot of time to re-generate. Use aloe vera to soothe if skin becomes very irritated. Do not mix tretinoin with glycolic acid under any circumstances. Your skin will no likey that☝🏼waves finger

[AprilLoveJ]

That was to op btw.

[pieceofpurplesky]

I use the aldi expert one - in a red jar with a pipette dropper thing.
Several people have commented on my skin looking 'glowing' (and definitely not pregnant)

[AprilLoveJ]

user if you google retinoids pubmed you will find some great and invaluable info on it. I do recommend it, however it does need to be used properly (dong overdo it) and diet can not be forgotten. It can stimulate new collagen but your body needs to be able to make that - a good diet with adequate protein and vitamins/minerals will see to that.

[AprilLoveJ]

raypeat.com/articles/articles/water.shtml

Is why I mentioned the water thing. You may need to clear your schedule for next hour - it's a little long!

[WingDefence]

April I am suitably warned! In fact you've scared me off buying anything from a dodgy pharmacy site now (I never have done)!!

piece I remember thinking how I glowed during my two pregnancies. That would be nice again without having to have another DC at the end of it

[Goodgodmissmoll]

April J where do you get your tretinoin from? I need a reliable source.

[FitbitAddict]

I use the Avon cream with a gel for the upper eyelid. I've used it for about 5 years now (I'm 48) and I think it's very good. Usually £20 but often available for £12.

[signalred]

Tetrinoin is the only thing that will actually work. A doc or nurse prescriber can get it for you, probably privately. That and Botox has knocked 15 years off me

[WingDefence]

Wow signal that's impressive! Not sure I'm up for Botox though :)

Fitbit can you remember the name please?

[WingDefence]

Is it this one Fitbit?

[cheeseandmarmite15]

I use this, it's magical stuff!

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D31S1T0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21