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Dithering about Botox. Cancelled twice. Help me make my mind up!!

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Smugsmuggler Thu 10-Oct-13 17:06:42

Right, so at 39 my 11s are starting to be quite evident. Not deep but present when my face is relaxed. And I'd like to age "naturally" (i.e. never look like I have had anything done), but much more slowly than I am doing. Some of it that I have finally lot weight, sorted out my skin, got my colours done, and I would just like to look my absolute best now...

So I keep booking Botox, and I keep chickening out..
1. Will I look obviously Botoxed?
2. Will it feel funny when I try and frown?
3. Am I starting too early?
4. Is it worth the money?
5. Is it morally and ethically defensible?<just a small question>
6. Will my husband notice?

I have asked few of these questions on here a few years ago when it was just a distant pipe dream, but I'm going round in circles now....

Lazysuzanne Sun 20-Oct-13 00:10:56

I don't have an expert eye Helly but I see slebs in their 50's (who've presumably had work done) and look good to me.

I'd imagine techniques will improve seeing as there's mucho profit to be made from anti aging and cosmetic procedures

hellymelly Sat 19-Oct-13 23:44:11

The only way to avoid the odd disconnection between different areas on one's face past 55 is to go all Liz Jones and have a facelift plus botox plus fillers. then the whole face looks too smooth and the hands and chest look knackered. Then if you have your hands done your knees look weird! It is hard, i am nearly 50 and I do hate my frown lines. As you get into your 60s and 70s, then "work" just looks rather scary. As another poster said, people tend to look at themselves static in mirrors , they don't see what others see- the odd dimples near the nose grooves from fillers when women smile, the way that lines curve the wrong way with facelifts etc. Probably lasers at the moment are the only thing that will keep the integrity of facial features while improving the skin. Maybe that will change in the future.

Flo56 Sat 19-Oct-13 13:49:40

I agree with Helly's point although I don't have her knowledge or expertise. I think that, if you're careful, you can get away with a bit of Botox until the rest of your face starts to go - probably when you're in your 50s. After that it just looks stupid. The problem is then that the temptation is to start getting some other things fixed, which rarely ends well.

You do have fabulous bone structure Noddy, I am very jealous.

noddyholder Sat 19-Oct-13 11:57:44

Thanks for all that info very interesting. I agree when the rest of your face is more lined you have to stop. Tbh I am not particularly bothered about ageing I just wanted to try it and am approaching 50 fast and am quite happy to leave it. I do like the no tired effect though. I can't see a difference in me before botox in the turban pic but I know to a trained eye it is probably obvious grin! Thanks for the compliment I am not scandinavian but am often asked that! I am Irish x

hellymelly Sat 19-Oct-13 11:49:06

Noddy- apologies for taking so long to get back to the thread. Anyway, I am not a medical person, I used to be a stylists for tv, and I have worked with make-up and also used to paint, so i watch how light hits a face very closely and probably notice more than the average person would.
You have an extremely beautiful face, with bone structure that will see you looking lovely into old age, I don't think you need to fret about your looks at all. I can see that you have had botox from the slightly more reflective area between your brows, the lack of shadow there, although the pics are tiny so i am peering at them! I really don't think that there is any way a practitioner could avoid that, as that is how botox works, by relaxing the muscle in that area. Absolutely your face your choice, but I think as get into your mid 50s, and have more fine lines radiating down from your eyes into your cheeks when you smile, then smoothness between your brows will be more noticable and give a disparity between the different parts of your face. Right now you are young enough for that not to be an issue. Anyway, you have a lovely face ! Are you scandinavian?

hellymelly Fri 11-Oct-13 23:50:39

Noddy- I wrote you a really long post and nudged the keyboard and the whole thing deleted itself. (really annoying new keyboard too sensitive). I have run a bath but I will re-write it all tomorrow.

SacreBlue Fri 11-Oct-13 21:59:18

Based only on a few months working in a clinic that provided botox -

1. Will I look obviously Botoxed?
Some repeat customers did, only 'new' client I saw didn't, she was in her 20's and I wasn't aware she had it done but did noticed she looked great - no idea if she was doing other things that might have made that difference.

2. Will it feel funny when I try and frown?
I haven't had it done and didn't think to ask. During training the nurse did say that rubbing your face/eyes can make the botox move and cause a droopy eyelid if not careful.

3. Am I starting too early?
Person mentioned above was mid 20's, other clients were older so not sure. One thing is for sure (as with many things) once you start - can you stop?

4. Is it worth the money?
Really subjective. Not for me, maybe for front facing or tv type work? Prob depends on results & job role but mostly on how important appearance is to you and what you can afford obvs

5. Is it morally and ethically defensible?<just a small question>
Prob much the same as above. I think the upkeep might need to be a factor - once you start would you feel ok if circs meant you had to stop? The wider issue of appearance Vs personality and basic human worth is a very personal thing - unless you are diverting money from from basic living needs of course. I would be concerned if you had mental or emotional issues with appearance that might affect your judgement and health when considering any major changes to your body/face

6. Will my husband notice?
I noticed a difference in work colleague so assume a partner would notice - though I wasn't aware it was botox until she told me and again - she was a) young, b) quite fit, c) might have been just drinking loads of water, d) possibly using a new good moisturiser, e) something else, as well as the botox

Could even be good genes.


eleanorofacquitaine Fri 11-Oct-13 21:28:50

The rest of your face looks fine, Noddy. Perhaps that's why the botox doesn't look odd or out of place?

ThePuffyShirt Fri 11-Oct-13 21:19:25

Noddy you're a beaut.

I don't have it to look younger. It makes me look fresh and not cross. I had 11s like ravines and looked permanently furious.

noddyholder Fri 11-Oct-13 18:58:26

Thankyou very much that is lovely. I only have one ds think the pics may be him at different ages.

feelinlucky Fri 11-Oct-13 18:57:40

You're beautiful and I love your photos. Gorgeous children, you must be really proud.

feelinlucky Fri 11-Oct-13 18:56:58

Yes sorry, just realised you're not the original op smile

noddyholder Fri 11-Oct-13 18:54:36

Thanks for the compliment too much appreciated too have been ill all week and look a mess smile

noddyholder Fri 11-Oct-13 18:54:09

I have had it! I like it x

feelinlucky Fri 11-Oct-13 18:49:55

Noddy, you look gorgeous, just go for it. If you don't like it then don't have it again. I promise you won't regret it smile

binger Fri 11-Oct-13 18:43:07

I've had it once before and I'm getting it again in a couple of weeks. I'm also getting fillers in my nose to lip lines. I'm 43 and not very wrinkly but I want to keep it that way, hence the work. I didn't think mine was ott, just looked a bit fresher however I'm getting eyebrows done this time too so hopefully won't have the startled look.

Go for it, you won't regret it - it doesn't hurt btw, just in case you wondered.

noddyholder Fri 11-Oct-13 18:41:11

As you know about it can you tell me what the difference is between my face on my profile pic with turban and cat one absolutely no botox at all and the one I posted so that I can get him to do it different next time maybe Thanks

noddyholder Fri 11-Oct-13 18:32:40

But that is a pic without! After about 4 months and half a dose I would think it has practically worn off. You are the 1st person who has ever said it though you have worked with it so may see something else. The space between my brows is untouched though.

hellymelly Fri 11-Oct-13 18:21:10

Noddy you are very beautiful, but yes, you do look as though you have had botox. Something about the set of your brows and the width between them looks botox-y. (I did used to work with faces though, so maybe I focus differently to the average)

handcream Fri 11-Oct-13 16:58:26

So I keep booking Botox, and I keep chickening out..
1. Will I look obviously Botoxed? No, not if its done properly
2. Will it feel funny when I try and frown? No, I never have!
3. Am I starting too early? A bit but wrinkles come to some earlier than others!
4. Is it worth the money?Yes, it blooming works. Unlike some very expensive face creams (circa £80!)
5. Is it morally and ethically defensible?<just a small question>Depends on your own personal views....
6. Will my husband notice? Mine didnt. I have a fringe though so perhaps less obvious

PM me if you are in the SE. I go to someone who is well known to the ladies at Mumsnet who do have this done! She is really really good.

I have to say that when people know I have had it done they say 'well, you dont need it'. Well, that's because it's in there already!!!

martinedwards Fri 11-Oct-13 16:58:04

heard recently that it is the vitality and movement in a face that makes it attractive.......

therefore, botox may reduce lines, but it MAY also reduce what others find attractive.

just sayin!

Rules Fri 11-Oct-13 16:46:51

noddy as I said before, you look lovely and I think my opinion wouldn't change even if you never had botox. Maybe you have a happy young outlook on life and this is reflected in your face. Whats the old saying about when your older.... you get the face you deserve....ha ha.....or something like that.

Rules Fri 11-Oct-13 16:44:16

Im 52 now but without vanity but with a lot of pride, people are genuinely shocked when they know my real age. They think I am in my mid thirties. Is it luck, the food I have eaten throughout life, my attitude or genetics??? I think maybe a little of all. O and im Australian so have enjoyed the sun. My skin is lovely and glows and no sign of leather at all. The benefits of sun on the body are now being realised and the effects of years of keeping out of the sun and blocking the rays with potentially deadly chemicals is causing a lot of problems. The sun shouldn't be abused but rather than causing problems in everyone it can help to prevent a lot of illnesses.

BleedinEck Fri 11-Oct-13 16:41:59

A friend of mine recently hosted a Botox party & although I didn't know the guest list I instantly clocked 2 attendees at the school gates (1 just looked too rigid & the other was quite a dramatic frown reduction) but even after a few weeks of seeing them everyday would never have guessed the remaining 3 had had anything done. I wouldn't do it but then I'm not particularly vein or bothered by ageing.

noddyholder Fri 11-Oct-13 16:36:53

Before I was about 45 I thought that way too! I still like crows feet but not deep furrows!

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