Benefit - are the ladies on the counter make up artists?(32 Posts)
I am asking as my sister in law to be is using her local Benefit lady for make up on her wedding day. I've been asked if I would like to use her too and would just like a feel for whether they do one look or if they are proper make up artists as at MAC. Thanks!
Are you contemplating using a makeup artist to do your makeup for someone else's wedding?
I wouldn't bother, unless the "someone else" was volunteering to pay.
Some are some aren't. All the counters you visit will have strict targets and figures to hit, not sure why that is being mentioned as a benefit thing tbh. And many of the girls will have worked for different brands in the past. I know a girl that had her hair in a bun and very harsh makeup at Dior but the previous year they were wearing converse at smashbox!
I've had a couple of make up sessions.
The best by miles were Bobbi Brown & Laura Mercier (at SpaceNK).
No sales pressure either, but of course I did.
Well the moral of the story here is obviously to shop around as much as you can....we all have different tastes so what might be completely over the top makeup to one of could be perfect for someone else.
YourMa - your sister sounds as though she's great at what she does but my overall experience of Benefit (having visited their counters in Boots, House of Fraser and Debenhams ) is a negative one. I actually feel bad for the girls having these targets and quotas as I think it quite possibly has the opposite effect....I will now always give their counters a wide berth as I feel they don't leave you alone to have a play with products and experiment yourself before you ask for help. It must be pretty crap to be under that pressure to sell, sell, sell all the time. Hopefully she'll get a chance to go out on her own as you mentioned and have the freedom to do her own thing.
I had MAC makeup at my friends wedding. (I was her MOH). I look like I've got a couple of shiners. So called day-to-night look. She also made me have eyelash inserts that felt really uncomfortable and sore. It kept catching on my bottom lashes for about an hour til it was fully dried.
A friend of mine worked for Benefit, and was a makeup artist. She did a wonderful job of my sister's wedding makeup.
I had a MAC trial before my wedding. I had to clean my face before leaving the department - I looked like an orange faced drag queen/clown.
My sister is a Benefit salesgirl. She is a highly trained MUA and didn't start applying make up to customers after just 3 hours of training Its actually quite a tough job and the pay is very sales driven. There are penalties and consequences if you don't make your quotas minimum. They have a half day seminar where you get to know the classics and newer brands but you have to be trained in professional make up application beforehand.
My sister is bloody good at what she does and plans to branch out into her own business soon. She already does make up for big events like weddings, proms, birthdays etc. She has also donated her free time by teaching cancer patients on the ward how to apply make up safely and how to do eyelash extensions, realistic HD eyebrows etc as well as making scarves with built in fringes for them to wear (for free).
So what if they're called "Benebabes"? Its a gimmick and they rely on their glamour 50's Americana look to appeal to a broad spectrum of ages and tastes. Many brands are waking up to this and doing a fair imitation (Soap and Glory for starters). Their stuff appeals to my mum in her 50's, me in my 30's, my sister in her 20's and my dd who is 7 adores their packaging and uses an old gift bag as a PE kit holder No other luxury brand appeals to all in quite the same way. Oh and Benefit is the only one that seemingly employs males on their counters. My sister's colleague is also a well trained male MUA. I love Benefit.
Benefit recently painted my face yellow when I went to try their latest foundation. It was thick and hideous. I was quite embarrassed later when I realised I had gone round M&S and collected my son from nursery looking yellow. Smashbox was dreadful. ( I will let anyone make me over if there's a chance of freebies!) I had Bobbi Brown, MAC & Clinique makeovers before my wedding a few years ago. Clinique was fine. MAC insisted on giving me big false eyelashes even though I told them I was getting natural looking lash extensions. Bobbi Brown was the best. I was with the assistant for about an hour (I pre-booked). She was lovely and listened to what liked. My makeup was lovely and similar to how I usually apply it but better. I would recommend BB for wedding makeup.
I know someone who works on a Benefit counter and yes she is fully trained. She is also trained in things like brows and other beauty treatments which is learned in college, working on a counter is good experience for her but not what she wants to do forever. She did have to do a short course with benefit (around half a day) in order to learn about the Benefit products. She also gets £200 every six months to buy Benefit make-up for her own use which is a nice little perk if you like the brand.
I used to do promotions years ago and was signed up with various agencies, one of them did make up counter work and I used to get asked if I could, benefit was one of the brands I was asked to do and I have never had any make up training. If I remember right it was also commission based selling too, hence them being pushy, may have all changed now though.
I have had my make up done by MAC a couple of times and really loved it and found they did a really good job, quizzed the one girl and she had trained in beauty before joining MAC and then had training from MAC too.
Benefit staff are called benebabes I think that says it all.
I worked for clinique for 7 years and chanel for 2. None of the counters I worked with had proper make up artists! We all just had regular training with our own brands, some product training and some application training. Some people might consider that make up artist training but it's not as good as a proper make up course at college.
It's enough to wow prospective customers into buying stuff
I had a trial with a benefit assistant and she kept having to ask the advice of someone who worked on the smashbox counter...
I think Benefit sales assistants are taught to push a handful of their best selling, supposedly universally flattering products (like high beam) at anyone who asks for advice. They're taught how to apply these few fairly foolproof products but don't have much more in depth training than that.
In my experience, MAC staff are very good. There have been some in the past that I was wary of because they were wearing quite full on, extreme makeup themselves but they always put makeup on me really beautifully and subtly. They're also excellent at picking out the exact shades that will flatter you the most. Often the ones that you're not particularly drawn to. They've never steered me wrong though.
The Benefit ladies tend to be heavily made up and their orange glow is fine under the artifice lighting of the store but be warned I have had several of them try to make me buy products which would suit them not me!
I did make a complaint about one woman as she sold my daughter make up which was completely unsuitable and I took the whole lot back after my daughter got home and realised that in natural daylight the colours sold to her were far darker/orangier than she realised. They gave me the money back with no problem.
In fact, every single benefit sales assistant I have seen in stores up and down the country, no matter how old, sports the same thick orange face and overdone dark eyebrows!
A lot of the MAC staff favour the trannie look IMO. Bobbi Brown better but often staggeringly clueless too. I think best to spend the dosh on quality products and do your own face rather than risk an unqualified stranger.
They made a right mess of me! I felt like a clown walking home. My DP actually laughed when he saw me!
I know 3 independent make up artists near me, but the wedding is 250 miles away and at an out of town venue. I think I'd prefer to have a class anyway - more long term benefit. Bit that the mother of the bride is also having make up done by benefit.
What stores/counters do you have near you ? MAC are almost always trained MUA...I think Illamasqua too...and Bobbi Brown as I said.
No, IMO the benefit counter assistants are of the HD brow, palette knife application school of make up.
Bobbi Brown assistants are make up artists, and better for a wedding, unless she wants to look like a teenage girl.
I think I am politely going to decline then. I understand why it would appeal to a 23 year old, but I am +10 years... I wish the wedding was local to me so I could use one of the 3 make up artists I know and trust!
I would say no, judging by what they did to my face.
Yes I could easily believe that...it's all about selling the products and bugger all else. If they didn't have a customer at the counter asking questions then they were expected to roam the store looking for some poor bugger to turn into Lilly Savage's ugly sister....
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