How do you get your daily SPF?

[Lottapianos]

What's your everyday SPF product/products?

Mine:

Winter - BB cream ( have used Gosh, Maybelline, Garnier) with minimum SPF 15

Summer - Ultrasun Factor 50 + BB cream with minimum SPF 15

[sugarice]

I'm currently use Alpha H daily moisturiser with spf 50. I use two products with glycolic acid so go for the high protection moisturiser, it's nice and light, not heavy at all.

[Lottapianos]

sugarice, do you find that it stings your eyes? Have had problems with such high SPF in the past.

I have been using SPF daily for about a year and I think my skin looks better for it already.

[EdMcDunnough]

Is this something we're supposed to do?

I had no idea.

[sugarice]

No stinging from the moisturiser at all but plenty from the glycolic acid!

[Mosman]

You didn't know, really ?

[EldonAve]

I use an SPF moisturiser in the summer but not in the winter - I want to get my vitamin D

[lurkingaround]

Eldon AFAIK, the winter sunlight wavelength in these here parts (Northern Europe) is not great for making Vit D, so your best bet is to supplement with 1000units D3 every day.

[lurkingaround]

Winter sunlight wavelength in winter, that is.

[JemimaPuddle]

In summer Ultrasun face SPF 30 or SPF 50 and in the winter Alpha H SPF 50.
I've only been stringent in using a high SPF daily for 6 months or so but my skin is definitely better for it.

[BigFairy]

Boots Protect & Perfect day cream. It has SPF 15 and 5* UVA. As far as I know, SPF only refers to UVB protection (the rays that burn you), whereas UVA refers to the rays that age you so important to be covered for both.

[BadgersRetreat]

Nutrogena Moisture moisturiser with SPF 15 and CoverGirl foundation also with SPF 15

[HoopDePoop]

Clinique City Block SPF40, daily all year round. It has a slight tint and I don't bother with makeup day to day.

[MissBoPeep]

SPF is not high enough.

There have been lots in the press about this from dermos.

To get SPF as it says on the bottle, you need a very large amount- more than you would normally use for your face- and it has to be re-applied every 2 hrs ( as ont he beach.)

You should go for factor 30 or above.

I use Clinique City Block and have for 20+ years. Result- no wrinkles .
Sunsense SPF 50 is good too but does flake a bit.

[MissBoPeep]

Sorry- that should have said SPF 15 is not enough.

[ArielThePiraticalMermaid]

What will happen if you don't? Assuming you don't mind aging, and you're not burning?

[Lottapianos]

Factor 30 even in the winter MissBoPeep? Have heard lots of good reports about City Block, may have to give it a try. No problems with eye stinging?

[MissBoPeep]

SPF 25 min in winter. City Block also comes in 40. Point being that unless you use lots- dermos have said the size of a 2p coin for your face alone- then you aren't getting much protection- so higher the better.

[MissBoPeep]

"Ariel" if you don't mind ageing !

It's UV rsys that cause ageing which is wny most people have smooth bottoms :)

UV rays cause wrinkles, skin sagging, skin discolouration, thicker skin, moles and worse case of all- skin cancer if you have too much sun.

[Chandon]

I never use spf on my face.

I don't sunbathe or do sunlounger hols.

I wear a hat (old fashioned floppy straw hat) if I am in the garden.

is spf for the face really necessary in the UK?

It gives me the most dreadful spots and congested skin, sometimes even a rash

[Meglet]

I've started using a bit in the summer.

But not in the winter. I break out in spots without a decent blast of sunshine. A bit of sunbathing is my only vice TBH, I'm such a health freak I'm hoping (possibly stupidly) it will stave off cancer.

[ArielThePiraticalMermaid]

I know that over-exposure to UV rays can cause skin cancer - I'm not a complete moron! I put on suncream when exposing my skin in sunlight, and have an SPF of 15 in my moisturiser, and avoid getting sunburn. I'm just a little of claims that we "need" to be smothering the skin on our faces in cream several times a day in order to avoid looking like leathery, wrinkly, skin-cancerous old hags by early middle age.

But we need sunshine! What's the point of cutting out all exposure to light, and then having to top up with Vitamin D supplements?

I'm not playing devil's advocate here, by the way. Nor am I lacking in intelligence. I have an outdoor job and put suncream on my exposed skin (in addition to the moisturiser in the morning) every day in the summer. However I'm not going to do it between October and March.

[BettyandDon]

I don't use it at all. I've got Vit D deficiency and need my sunshine, so says the Dr.

[MissBoPeep]

Okay- if you want an intelligent argument ;)

To get your Vit D you need 10 mins of strong sun on your bare arms during the summer as much as possible. Vit D is not water soluble- it's stored in your liver. So what's in the bank ( liver) stays put till it's used up, which should be months later.

You can also get it from oily fish ( sardines are full of it), eggs, marg and a few other foods.

There is also though the theory that whatever you get in the northern hemisphere suring summer ( what summer?) is not enough. So some experts advise supplementing as there is evidence it can protect against some cancers including breast cancer.

So- even if you expose your face to the sun, you will still not get the amount you need but you WILL get enough to damage your skin.

If you are in your 20s and 30s the damage will not be visible for maybe another 20 yeas- but the damage is ther- the collagen will be disintegrating, resulting in sagging skin and wrinkles.

[ArielThePiraticalMermaid]

But but but....isn't skin in its 50s and 60s supposed to sag and wrinke a bit? Is that necessarily "damage"? (OK, maybe am playing devil's advocate here a bit :) )

And haven't we been living in the northern hemisphere for as long as, well, forever? Isn't our native fair skin (if indeed you have fair skin) designed to get as much VitD from the sun as possible, which is why it it is very pale rather than brown or black, like people from hotter climates?

What I had heard on the other hand - and I have no idea whether this is proven or not, so apologies - is that Scotland has a higher incidence of MS than anywhere else in the world, and that it has been suggested that it may have something to do with a lack of sunlight.