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Do you put any base on before eyeliner? I use mineral powder foundation and sweep some over my eyes. Stops any running (also have combo skin)

have you tried mac eyeliners?

Maybe because you use eyeliner under your eyes? You really don't need it there.

why don't you need it there? i use it under eyes

You don't need it anywhere, but some of us like to put eyeliner under our eyes.

Do you touch your face unconsciously? I know I do. I find Bobbi Brown gel eyeliner stays put better than any pencils.

Have you tried using a dark eyeshadow with an eyeliner brush?

I've recently got into gel eyeliners, i think they are brilliant. I've got a Maybelline one in a tiny pot with a fine brush, really not difficult as you might think and a stick one from Avon. The Avon one in particular lasts all day and does not move.

I don't put eyeliner under my eyes but it ends up everywhere because I have long lashes (smug)

It's actually really annoying as I can use gel, liquid, waterproof mascara- whatever and it still ends up giving me panda face.

Estee Lauder doublewear, Clinique long lasting or Rimmel Exaggerate depending on your budget.

If you use a small angled brush and a dark matte eye shadow over the top of the eyeliner it should hardly move at all. Like using a setting powder over foundation - same principle

And gel eyeliners are much less likely to smudge.

Are you applying on the waterline (inner rim) or on lash line? I know kohl can travel downwards if applied inside the eye IYKWIM

Bobbi Brown gel eyeliner. Stays put, great colours, easy to apply.

MAC eyeliner on the top, dark MAC eyeshadow underneath. Doesn't budge

No, I don't put it on under my eyes, just on the lash line of the top lid. But it still seems to travel south. I try not to touch my eyes but maybe I'm an unconscious face-toucher.

Right, so it looks like I need a base coat, and possibly a gel eyeliner. Have never used an eyeliner brush, either. Didn't know such things existed! Will get to googling.

Thanks all.

I have just recently discovered the solution to this problem for me.
Happened no matter what liner I used, BBgel, ELdoublewear pencils , and always only on upper lid.
I have started using mineral makeup and low and behold my eyeliner stays put!!!
I think it's because I am not adding liquid foundation or using under eye concealor which adds to the problem.
Have a go at using eyeliner (revlon colourstay pencil is fab btw) without any other makeup whatsoever and see if it stays put.

Mine used to until I swithched to Urban Decay eye liner.