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Just use an eye definer in black instead. It's a twist up liner that goes on thicker than kohl but without all the issues you outlined above. Collection 2000 do one for pennies as does Avon. They stay put too.
My top tip is to use v dark charcoal-coloured eyeshadow and sharp, wedge-shaped eye make-up brush. Wet brush slightly and load the brush - you can vary the intensity of colour by how wet the brush is and how much eyeshadow you put on it. Keep it a bit watered down until you get your hand in!