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I want to be a teacher but am a tad confused

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jellyjelly Mon 22-Sep-08 16:58:32

Hello all.

Hopefully some of you may be able to help.

I want to be a teacher and teach in special needs schools. I already work at one as a ta on a 1:1 basis and i am doing nvq3.

SO what after do i need to do to be a teacher, i dont have a degree but not sure if i have to have one or if i can just do pcge.

Am so confused i have looked at sites but they dont tell you very clearly what you need.

I am planning on do a science gcse next yr.

Pls help.

lou031205 Mon 22-Sep-08 16:59:56

Hi, sorry to say that regardless of the route you take, you have to have a degree by the time you qualify.

jellyjelly Mon 22-Sep-08 17:01:25

but do you do a degree then pcge?

memoo Mon 22-Sep-08 17:02:16

A pgce is a post graduate course, you have to have a degree to do this. (Post Graduate Cetificate of Education)

There is no way you can become a teacher without going to uni i'm afraid.

I'm a TA to by the way, hi smile

belgo Mon 22-Sep-08 17:02:20

A PGCE is a postgraduate certificate in education, which means you have to have a degree before you start.

Or you can do a four year teaching degree (or maybe three years?)

jellyjelly Mon 22-Sep-08 17:04:50

I want to go to uni, no doubt about that just dont know how to get there. I also dont want to do a course and it not help me there and put me back further off track.

jellyjelly Mon 22-Sep-08 17:05:38

belgo so what is the difference between a normal degree and then a teaching one. Is it one or the other?

FranSanDisco Mon 22-Sep-08 17:06:26

You need a degree and a GCSE or equivilent in Science and Maths I believe. However, I am about to start a degree (tomorrow) and if we want to progress to a PGCE there is an option to sit assessments for maths and Science at the end. The downside is we are then tied to that university for our teacher training as it's not transferrable. I did O Levels so don't have any GCSE's wink but can't imagine doing a PGCE at this moment in time hmm.

wheresthehamster Mon 22-Sep-08 17:07:25

This is what a TA friend did to qualify (after NVQ) - level 2 adult numeracy and literacy, science GCSE, BA, PGCE.

I would look on your LA website for details. Ours is very helpful

FranSanDisco Mon 22-Sep-08 17:09:49

My route to uni has been via CACHE Diploma in Pre-school Practice with 3 yrs pratical experience. This is a level 3 qualification so equiv. to your NVQ 3. I can study BA (Hons) Early Childhood Studies which means I could take a PGCE and teach children up to the age of 8 years old. However I want to teach adults at Level2/3 in childcare so will take a different route after getting my degree. Look at the university sites and see what entry quals they recommend.

bellabelly Mon 22-Sep-08 17:20:34

You need a C grade at GCSE in Maths and English.

Then you can either do a B Ed (Bachelor of Education) - normally a 4 year course which includes lots of teaching practice and theory stuff. This route is more common for primary teachers than secondary teachers.

OR you can do a 3-year specialist degree in your chosen subject (eg, in Maths) and then a separate one-year PGCE course which qualifies you as a teacher.

There are other routes (like GTP) where you train on the job but you would still need a degree to do this.

Have a look here for more info.

bellabelly Mon 22-Sep-08 17:20:49

You need a C grade at GCSE in Maths and English.

Then you can either do a B Ed (Bachelor of Education) - normally a 4 year course which includes lots of teaching practice and theory stuff. This route is more common for primary teachers than secondary teachers.

OR you can do a 3-year specialist degree in your chosen subject (eg, in Maths) and then a separate one-year PGCE course which qualifies you as a teacher.

There are other routes (like GTP) where you train on the job but you would still need a degree to do this.

Have a look here for more info.

TheDevilWearsPrimark Mon 22-Sep-08 17:23:50

You would be best asking an advisor in your college what the best route for you is surely?

You need science to teach at primary level, but if you want to teach SN there may be a better tailored course for you

Nymphadora Mon 22-Sep-08 18:15:28

Make sure you get 2 weeks in MS school 1st too as they won't accept Special School as experience in education shock My DP is onto the TDA about this as it is could be read as Special schools aren't educationing.

jellyjelly Mon 22-Sep-08 18:24:21

Hello devil wears . I found found that the information from my college has not been very good and its very hard to get a call back too.

My school does give information but you at least need to have an idea at what you need to do.

I would like to teach a range of subject which is what they do at our school but having never worked in ms i am not sure if that is what they do to.

lou031205 Mon 22-Sep-08 18:44:54

There is a new route called the Registered Teacher Programme, which is an employment route.

You do the first two years of a degree, then find a school to employ you, and do the last two years as day release on the job. Still four years in all.

Blandmum Mon 22-Sep-08 18:48:41

You have to have a degree either in a specific subject and a PGCE (or quivalent , like GTP)

Or

You can get a degree in education (which normally takes 4 years.

Most teachers in secondary school have a degree + PGCE

Most teacher in primary have a Batchelors degree in Education.

Though obviously there are exceptions to this general rule of thumb.

All teacher will have some sort of degree.

So as an example, I have a degree in Biochemistry and a PGCE. I teach science to the end of KS3 and Biology at KS4 and 5

Peachy Mon 22-Sep-08 18:55:21

Hi jellyjelly- i'm planning on the same career, just got my first degree in Sept; applying to PGCE providers next week <<gulp>>

instead of the gcse look at access (I did mine part time0- there are special teachn ones available, they pass you on to degree courses

(MB- shocker- my friend joined her PGCE course a few weeks back, she was refused bursary (they changed their minds) as 'parents of asd kids cant cope' (yes she is suing) so had to leave: there were poeple on the PGCE, fully funded, with no degree

Fran- any PGCE course you apply to can assess you, all applicants (IIRC) whose quals are over 3 years old need to do that anyhow

Whizzz Mon 22-Sep-08 18:56:03

Jelly - have you thought about persuing the TA route & end up with HLTA status (higher level TA)?? This would allow you to 'teach' however it would be under the supervision & guidance of a teacher
info here it's something I'm considering (I'm a TA in secondary)

jellyjelly Tue 23-Sep-08 20:06:33

I am already a ta but i dont think i want to do that due to personal reasons. My work will sponsor me so i also may as well done all the work i can if they are going to pay me and pay for the course and of course it is somehting i want to do before someone jumps at me.

FairLadyRantALot Tue 23-Sep-08 22:24:26

if you have any Universities near you, find out when their Open days are...they should be soon...you can than have a one to one talk, etc...which can help immensely in finding out what teh UNis are looking for, etc....and also, which route would be the best for you!

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