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WWYD: Christmas Gift

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tony61 Tue 03-Dec-13 12:30:51

Would appreciate your advice or ideas on the following…

… it’s a wwyd about giving child a gift for Christmas…

Husband and I had our second child earlier this year, after announcing birth etc to family and friends oldest (step) child (22) went "ape", saying dreadful things to their dad, very hurtful things eg feckless father, you have too many children already, shouldn’t be allowed more, you’ve abandoned your older children, only care about your new family, have never helped me or mum, Mums the best she’s done everything and been to everything (you get the general idea)!

So on the evening of our youngest child’s birth my husband was up at the hospital (with me) in tears.

Apparently this started off in the afternoon as a series of texts, and then husband called sc and tried to talk but was told all of the above, he said at the time he didn’t interrupt just listened and tried to discuss but no joy. Told child he loved them and was there for them. Attempted to call the following day but it was the same. There has been no reconciliation since, and my husband is reluctant to call as he doesn’t want to be abused again, he has said if his oldest child calls he will chat as if nothing ever happened (but that hasn’t happened yet). I do understand these feelings and thoughts are coming from somewhere, but I don’t pretend to know where.

Husband has always supported his child and their mum, has always been at the end of a telephone [and the week before they were chatting about changing jobs, new home etc (so on this occasion this all came out of the blue)]. Has attempted to get to; every event/occasion possible but we live 2 hours’ drive away so it hasn’t always been possible, but he certainly isn’t feckless or anything else that was said.

We had a similar falling out (several years ago) just before the birth of our first child and it took a year for father and child to be reconciled. SC had no interest in their new sibling on that occasion and hasn’t shown any towards their new sibling on this (but that’s something else).

So with Christmas a couple of weeks away husband and I are working out what presents we’re getting for family etc, but we really don’t know what to do for oldest sc. My heart says to send a gift but my head says, you can’t hate someone else and their family (me and the kids) but still say Ill happily expect/ take your gift!!

But I think if we don’t send a gift they would take it very personally, but I feel are there not consequences for saying hateful things to people. I appreciate that things were said in the heat of the moment and I’m sure some will say my husband should call, but I think he feels it’s happened twice now and actually on the birth of our second child what was supposed to be a joyful occasion ended in tears.

So if anyone has gone through this, please any ideas would be useful, I was thinking of a token gift (possibly from their siblings but not sure). Just wondering whether to go with head or heart...

Head is a small token gift
Heart is a sum of money

caramelwaffle Fri 06-Dec-13 23:12:32

Well said Mumallthetime

noseymcposey Sat 07-Dec-13 00:55:23

Well, that answers my question on another thread - stepmums should tolerate, excuse and make allowances for their DSC appalling behaviour well into adulthood, even once they are living independent lives of their own and possibly until the DSC are old enough to be parents and grandparents

No, but they shouldn't be anymore inclined to cut out a step-child than than they would their own child. I certainly wouldn't be excluding my DS because we'd fallen out, so I wouldn't expect to exclude my DSS's either. If their parent is prepared to forgive and move on/tolerate/make allowances then so should the step parent.

Never mind the damage they do to other, younger DCs - be they step siblings, half siblings or even their own DCs.

No matter what their age, their feelings in response to their parents choices justify behaviour that would be considered unacceptable, if not arrestable, if it were directed at anyone else

Well, clearly not - but that isn't the case here from what the OP has posted.

IThoughtThat Sat 07-Dec-13 01:12:28

OP. If I was you I would not have worried myself over this and I would have told my DH to deal with it however he wants. Let him decide what to do. It would be less stressful.

eightandthreequarters Sat 07-Dec-13 01:18:49

I don't think you should be messing about with gift or no gift. I think your DH should call his oldest child and talk. And if he gets an earful of abuse, then so be it, but that's his job as Dad even to a 22-year-old. Assuming he gets more abuse, then HE - and not you, not your family - sends his child a Christmas card to say he loves them and will be there for them whenever they would like to talk again. No charity donation and no token gift.

Your DH needs to see if he can repair the relationship, and he needs to think about his child's resentment and anger and what justification there is for that.

eightandthreequarters Sat 07-Dec-13 01:28:32

Just to be clear, it's not that I think your ideas on gifts are wrong. It's just that it's not your problem to solve. If I were you, I'd be quite happy not to hear from SC again at all - her behaviour was unacceptable and it's distressing to have someone wishing your children were never born on the night of their birth.

SC is an adult with her own home now and your DH needs to decide for himself what kind of relationship to pursue with her. You don't have to be involved at this point, so save yourself the bother!

Maybe83 Sat 07-Dec-13 19:43:04

If this was one of your adult children of your relationship who was upset regarding aspects of there child hood when they grow up what would you do? Would you buy them a token Christmas gift because you didn't like there behaviour?

If the answer is yes then you have done the right thing if not then I would rethink.

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