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I am so angry I could spit(epilepsy medication advice needed)

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2shoescarriedapumpkin · 15/09/2009 17:22

dd has epilepsy, she has always been on Lamotrogine , but she has always had the brand lamictal,
in the past the dr has tried to change it to ther generic one, so I spoke to them and explained that the slightest change to the medication could lead her to having a fit, all fine and the doctor has been prescribing lamictal.......
today my chemist rang me and said the prescription now was just for lamotrogine, so could I get it changed and a new prescription.
turns out the doctor changed it to lamotrogine back in may(the chemist misssed this) so won't change it as he says(via receptionist) that dd has been on the generic once since may!!!
so now I have had to make a sodding appointment to see him on thursday......
any advice on what I can say

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lou031205 · 15/09/2009 17:55

"Get your act together"?

Sorry, surely you just need to get the message across that any resulting seizure would trigger an immediate complaint as you have informed them of the implications.

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lou33 · 15/09/2009 17:59

have you noticed any change in seizure frequency 2shoes?

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2shoescarriedapumpkin · 15/09/2009 18:16

no, her seizures are controlled. because the chemist didn't notice the doctor had changedthe presriptuion, he carried on giveing me lamictal(this will have cost him)
it makes me so sngry as it is all about money.
silly thing is if dd starts having fits again, we will have to have Pharaldahyde precribed again(about £80 a bottle) so it is just plain daft

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Nyrrem · 15/09/2009 20:22

The key thing the Dr can't argue with is that in fact she hasn't been on the generic one since May.

HTH

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TotalChaos · 15/09/2009 20:47

can you speak to a neurologist or specialist nurse before thursday?

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r3dh3d · 15/09/2009 20:51

Quote the NICE Guidelines which say that generics should NOT be prescribed for E meds. (if you google it you should find a nice (ha ha) document you can print out and brandish at him) And get proof (if poss) from the pharmacist that she has not been on the generic despite him screwing with the prescription.

Threaten to take it to formal complaint with the PCT if he still refuses. Prescribing generic E meds is incompetent. And if he is (as he will be) just doing it to save money out of his budget, he needs his arse kicked.

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feelingbetter · 15/09/2009 20:55

I remembered signing this petition a while back.
Enough info there, surely?

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2shoescarriedapumpkin · 15/09/2009 21:34

i have found the site, but no idea where to find the right bit

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r3dh3d · 15/09/2009 21:39

Well, the NICE guideline is here, you want section 1.8.8

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wuglet · 15/09/2009 21:40

SIGN guidelines (similar things) are here

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feelingbetter · 15/09/2009 21:46

S'on page 56

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2shoescarriedapumpkin · 15/09/2009 21:46

thanks I have booked marked them both, i need to get acrobat to open the nice one

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r3dh3d · 15/09/2009 21:50

The text seems to be identical in both, just the section numbering is different.

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2shoescarriedapumpkin · 15/09/2009 22:05

thank you, that is what I need,
hopefully he wil just let me have the prescription, but if nit at least I have something to back me up.

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JustCutAndPaste · 15/09/2009 23:27

2shoes if your gp still won't change the prescription try taking it to Boots as they always give ds2 Lamictal even though it just says lamotrigine on his prescription. I was advised to do this by another parent I know who works as a pharmacist in Boots- apparently it is their policy to give the branded drug, plus they keep notes about each patient so if you go back in they will give you the same stuff you got last time.

I found this easier than fighting with the gp about it. Also signed the petition...

Good luck, anyway. I know we had terrible problems when ds2 was on generic lamotrigine. Didn't lead to any breakthrough seizures but it was like he was getting used to the drug all over again and would take at least a week for him to be himself again.

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2shoes · 16/09/2009 19:02

thanks for all the advice, I will let you know what happens

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2shoes · 17/09/2009 11:09

well that was fun.
bit all comes down to money and the branded is way more expensive than the generic and there is no proof that it will affect her.
so he gave me 2 weeks of the old branded on and then I have to ask at her MDR on monday.
I have decided if I can keep her on the branded on untill after her op on the 5th October, I will try her on the generic one.

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2shoes · 17/09/2009 18:47

bump for more advice

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feelingbetter · 17/09/2009 21:52

Where,s that there Riv when you need her?
& bump

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2shoes · 17/09/2009 21:53

I know , I keep hoping she will see this, she will be in bed now

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Lauree · 18/09/2009 23:33

You're right to be careful...
my DS had a series of massive tonic clonics when we got Orilept generic instead of Epilim one time. Shame because Orilept doesn't have the horrible pink food colouring in it, which is a good thing.

And here's the rest of the cautionary tale...
After those fits, DS's epilim dose was increased . unfortunatley I was so convinced that the fits had badly affected him,and it was all my fault because I didn't wake up and call the ambulance soon enough ... ( bet some of you will recognise this one ...) that I didn't realise the increased dose of epilim and not brian damage was causing DS to be stumbling around like a drunk all the time dribbling and shouting. And so he had to put up with weeks of being drugged up to the eyeballs before the chemist told me it was 'rather a lot of epilim for a five year old' I finally realised it might not all be my fault and went back to the doctor.

Thank goodness meds are changed to Keppra now, and DS is nearly back to himself again, but, my goodness, those drugs are heavy duty stuff...

By the way, it really does help sometimes to get all of this stuff of the chest and know that someone out there actually understands what it's about.. Thanks x

And where's Riven? I hope she's OK, I noticed a distinct lack of posts on the usual pages.. . sending you all a warm hug, and an extra one for Riven x

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2shoes · 18/09/2009 23:38

very odd that she hasn't been on here,

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Fluffypoms · 18/09/2009 23:57

Riven was on a lil earlier

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sarah293 · 19/09/2009 08:49

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2shoes · 19/09/2009 10:41

thanks, that is waht I thought, I have her MDR on monday so will gey it sorted then

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