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Developmental Assessments: What standard ones are there?

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StarlightMcKenzie Mon 10-Aug-09 13:29:04

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cyberseraphim Mon 10-Aug-09 15:52:28

As far as I know (and this is based on personal experience ) Ed. Psysch are not experts in autism though will have met many in the course of their work. The PEP-R assesment is quite popular with LEA Ed Psychs as is tied in to TEACCH. Why have they made up their own?

sc13 Mon 10-Aug-09 16:37:07

The Ed Psych who saw DS at the nursery had things like building a tower of bricks, building a bridge with bricks, drawing elements of a face, drawing elements of a body. Not sure what the procedure was called, but I think he was assessing against 'normal' because his main aim was to assess cognitive skills (capacity to learn), which are not necessarily affected by ASD, outside specific areas like language. I think. We haven't received the report yet...

StarlightMcKenzie Mon 10-Aug-09 22:25:11

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StarlightMcKenzie Mon 10-Aug-09 22:33:12

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asdx2 Tue 11-Aug-09 08:05:01

They used the Griffiths test in Jack and Lucy's assessments. The rubbish SALT used CELF when assessing Lucy which I then had removed from her statement reports as not being appropriate to Lucy's difficulties nor properly administered (they love me lol) Jack's SALT never did a formal assessment just observed, listened and played with Jack and talked to me and produced an A1 report.

sodit Tue 11-Aug-09 08:36:46

ds1 has the Griffiths test also but I have heard of the British Ability Scales through what they comprise I have no idea.

lingle Tue 11-Aug-09 08:59:49

"never want the words 'visual timetable' mentioned ever again or I'll start screaming"

So "visual timetable" has become synonymous with "here's-a-one-size-fits-all-let's-not-really-think-about-it-solution" for you? I do have sympathy as DS2 excels at recognising emotions and turntaking yet I have been offered "therapy" for this. But can you not somehow take ownership of this visual timetable thing? To give an analogy - I'm capable of functioning without my calendar - but my thinking is more organised when I have it. I'm also capable of going into my favourite sandwich shop and buying my favourite sandwich without looking at the menu - but I still glance at that menu anyway. And if all the sandwiches were in a different place one day and for some reason I didn't want to ask the assistant where my favourite had gone, I would find it helpful to check it was still on the menu. This would keep me happy as I scanned the reorganised shelves.... This is what visual timetables are supposed to be all about.

notfromaroundhere Tue 11-Aug-09 10:31:41

I found the Ed Psych visit a very strange experience. DS1 has a DX of ASD and once the greetings were over she said "for some children a dx of ASD just means they are extremely intellegent in one area" hmm. Of course some children with ASD DO have an area of extreme intellegence but they will also have the triad of impairments otherwise they aren't on the spectrum, surely?

Anyway, she asked the usual history of DS1 questions, my opinions on his difficulties. Asked him to do a few games (matching, threading beads etc)

Her report recommended DS1 get some 1-1 at preschool and a Specialist Teacher, went to the "panel" and the recommendations were agreed.

She did quote me word for word on what I had said about preschool "I think he floats about doing as he wants" which put their noses out of joint. whoops!

asdx2 Tue 11-Aug-09 10:50:13

I think like all professionals there are good and not so good. For Jack's report for his statement he saw a senior ed psych whose report picked out every difficulty I would have mentioned, in just a 45 minute assessment asking very few questions from me. I was amazed at how much he saw also impressed because he saw Jack despite him coming out in chicken pox that morning regardless of the fact he'd had them three times already.
Lucy saw a different ed psych who relied heavily on what I and pre school support reported. Her report was twice considered insufficient but at least she went to panel and put the case for Lucy's assessment in person and blasted them whilst there for their use of "unnecessary delying tactics"
My advice would be to read the report carefully and challenge anything you don't agree with.

notfromaroundhere Tue 11-Aug-09 11:22:20

Forgot to mention that DS1's first SALT used the Derbyshire assessment. His current one tends to play specific games to guage his responses rather than put the spoon under the plate etc.

cyberseraphim Tue 11-Aug-09 12:57:14

I hope RGO gave you some ideas on how to get out of base camp and a bit further up the mountain !

I agree 'Visual Timetable' can be a red flag for Professional cluelessness but if you look past that, you can find your own practical and functional uses for them. Just keep parroting

'What is it for?'
'What is it for?'
'What is it for?'

StarlightMcKenzie Tue 11-Aug-09 17:32:32

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lingle Tue 11-Aug-09 18:24:00

'to help him'

that, my dear DH would say, is not even close to being an answer to your question.....

StarlightMcKenzie Tue 11-Aug-09 18:36:19

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