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Received proposed statement today - what a joke - where can I find examples of a good one?

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Homsa · 19/05/2007 22:35

Title says it all really!
DS is autistic, he is due to start school in Jan 08, we want him to go to the local mainstream school while continuing his ABA programme part-time.
The statement mentions no learning support, no SLT, OT, and of course no ABA - just says the school would have to provide "opportunities for individual and small group attention", "strategies and activities to develop appropriate social relationships", etc. etc. From what I've read this is illegal, as the statement should specify and quantify the special educational provision required.
I'm trying to write a letter to the LEA, but I don't really know what exactly I should be asking for, or how to word it - can anyone help? Maybe if someone has a statement they're happy with (haha) would you email me a copy (personal details removed, obviously)?

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sphil · 19/05/2007 23:27

Ring IPSEA - the woman I spoke to when we needed to revise DS2's proposed statement was wonderful. Basically I read out what had been written and she advised me on the specific wording we should be asking for. It takes a long time to get through on the phone but is definitely worth it. I'd be willing to let you see DS2's - but he's going to special school and we weren't doing ABA then (we are now and how to get it into school is another story) - so I don't think it would be much use to you.

The first thing I did when I got the proposed statement was to go through all the supporting reports and highlight every time it was mentioned that DS2 had a difficulty (in one colour) and every time that it was stated that he had a need (in another colour). Then I went back to the statement and made sure that each of these difficulties and needs were reflected in specific and quantified provision. If they weren't, then I wrote my own suggestion (this is where IPSEA's advice was invaluable).

We then asked for a meeting with the statementing officer. We took to the meeting a copy of the proposed statement and then our own revised copy (x2). We highlighted the bits we wanted changed in red and then typed the suggested revision underneath in italics. She seemed to find this very helpful. Most of our changes were accepted,but by then it was clear that DS2 was going to special school and many issues were not so much of a problem. I do think we would have had a much bigger fight on our hands if we'd wanted him to go to m/s - we would have fought for full time 1:1 for example.

Good luck! Hopefully someone who's got ABA written into their statement will be along to give you more specific advice.

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Homsa · 20/05/2007 08:57

Thanks Sphil, some good ideas there! I think I will write a revised copy in the same way as you did.
I've tried ringing IPSEA and never got through, but I'll keep trying. I've previously been in contact with someone from the NAS Advocacy for Education service, she was very helpful and I'll see if she can help me with this as well.

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KarenThirl · 20/05/2007 09:25

Homsa - there seems to be some uncertainty as to whether such vague statements are illegal. From what I can gather, the various codes of practice are guidelines rather than legislation, and I don't think there is any legal obligation to follow them (although it's obviously regarded as good practice to do so, but some LEAs don't).

A friend of mine with an AS son has just been told that our LEA 'have a policy of issuing flexible statements', the implication being that they can vary the provision to meet the child's needs as and when they change, but we all know what it really means in practice. I'd be very surprised if they could work to such a broad policy if there was any legal implication against them doing so.

Hopefully IPSEA can put you right on that. If you do find about about the actual legality of it all, please post up here so that we can all share the knowledge!

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/05/2007 15:17

The Regulations prescribing the form and content of statements of special educational needs are the Education (Special Educational Needs) (England) (Consolidation) Regulations 2001 (and the virtually identical regulations for Wales: the Education (Special Educational Needs) (Wales) Regulations 2002). Regulation 16 provides that a statement of special educational needs must be in a form "substantially corresponding" to the example set out in Schedule 2 to the Regulations, and must also contain the information set out in Schedule 2.

Schedule 2 sets out the format for a statement of special educational needs. At Part 3 of the example statement, the following is set out:-

?Educational provision to meet needs and objectives

[Here specify the special educational provision which the Authority consider appropriate to meet the needs specified in Part 2 and to meet the objectives specified in this part and in particular specify?

(a) any appropriate facilities and equipment, staffing arrangements and curriculum)?



Section 324(ii), (iii)(b) and (iv)(c), EA 1996



The Education (Special Educational Needs) (England) (Consolidation) Regulations 2001, Reg. 16 and Schedule 2


This obligation is also reflected in paragraphs 8:36 and 8:37 of the Code of Practice on Special Educational Needs, which LEAs and Tribunals must "have regard to":

?8:36 A statement should specify clearly the provision necessary to meet the needs of the child. It should detail appropriate provision to meet each identified need ??

8:37 ? Provision should normally be quantified (e.g. in terms of hours of provision, staffing arrangements) although there will be cases where some flexibility should be retained in order to meet the changing special educational needs of the child concerned."


Paragraphs 8:34 and 8.37 of the Special Educational Needs Code of Practice

These duties have been tested extensively in the Courts. In particular, in R v Secretary of State for Education and Science Ex Parte E (1992) 1 FLR 277, the Court of Appeal confirmed that where a child requires a statement, all of the provision required to meet a child?s special educational needs must be set out in that statement. Whilst that case was concerned with the Education Act 1981 (a precursor of the current legislation contained in Part IV of the Education Act 1996), and whilst the case was also principally concerned with whether or not provision which could be made by the school should also be set out in a statement (which it should) the case, by implication, also underscores the point that provision must be specified and quantified, otherwise the intention of the judgement would be defeated.

R. v Secretary of State for Education and Science Ex Parte E (1992) 1FLR277


One reason why LEAs may wish not to specify provision is because they may then be required to arrange provision (pursuant to Section 324(5)(a)(i) of the Education Act 1996) over and beyond that which they have already funded. For example, they may have arrangements with Local Health Authorities for the provision of speech and language therapy but only to a limited extent, so that specificity of speech and language therapy beyond that which they have already funded may require additional and separate arrangements. However, this is not a legitimate reason for refusing to specify and, indeed, in R v London Borough of Harrow Ex Parte M (1997) ELR62, the Court affirmed the obligation of the LEAs to arrange provision set out in Part 3 of a statement, even where they had asked the Health Authority to arrange it, where the Health Authority had not done so.

In L v Clarke (Chair of Special Educational Needs Tribunal) & Somerset County Council [1998] ELR 129, the High Court specifically considered whether a statement should be specified and quantified. The Court determined that, ordinarily, statements should have a "high degree of specificity". Of course, there may be circumstances where specificity is not possible or desirable but, generally speaking, this should be the exception rather than the rule. Indeed, the reason why specificity is so important is, as set out in the Code of Practice, so that everyone is clear as to what the child concerned is entitled to, and ought to be receiving.

Sometimes, LEAs determine not to quantify or specify provision for children whose statements provide for them to attend special schools. There is nothing in law which limits the obligation to quantify and specify provision to those children not attending special schools. However, in E v London Borough of Newham and the Special Educational Needs Tribunal [2003] ELR 286, the Court of Appeal accepted that, where a child was attending a special school, a lower level of specificity may be appropriate.

E v Newham London Borough Council and the Special Educational Needs Tribunal [2003] EWCA Civ 09

LEAs often seek to rely on that decision to argue generally that provision for a child at a special school should not be specified or quantified. However, the obligation still remains to specify and quantify provision, except where there are good reasons not to do so. Merely attending a special school is not a sufficient reason not to specify provision and "flexibility" must be something that the child needs. As the Court of Appeal said in a case brought by IPSEA, (R (on the application of IPSEA Ltd) v Secretary of State for Education and Skills) [2003] ELR 393): "any flexibility built into the statement must be there to meet the needs of the child, and not the needs of the system."

Any flexibility built into the statement must be there to meet the needs of the child, and not the needs of the system

IPSEA Ltd, R (on the application of) v Secretary of State for Education and Skills [2003] EWCA Civ 7 (20 January 2003)

Another closely related issue which arose in E was whether it could be lawful for the LEA to include provision in a statement which was subject to an assessment to be undertaken at a later date. The Court indicated that generally this would not be lawful, a view also given by the High Court in C v SENT and London Borough of Greenwich [1999] ELR 5.
However, there will also be exceptions to this rule, and in some cases, particularly where the level of provision needed will not be known until a child begins at a particular school and is given an assessment, it may simply not be possible to specify provision.

C v Special Educational Needs Tribunal & Anor [1998] EWHC Admin 1029 (3 November 1998)

In those circumstances, one way of providing some protection is to set out a minimum, or an approximate, level of provision. This possibility has been raised by the High Court in a number of cases (including H v Gloucestershire County Council and Bowden [2000] ELR 357 and H v Leicestershire County Council [2000] ELR 471) and if the LEA fails to even do this then the statement may be unlawful.


If no minimum is specified (and it may be that in some cases it is not possible to do this), there is a risk that if the statement is left with an entirely open-ended amount of provision, then the LEA may be able to reduce the amount of provision at any time, without giving the parents a right of appeal to the Tribunal against that change. Accordingly, even where provision is for a time (and for a good reason) not specified and quantified, once it becomes possible for the LEA to specify and quantify provision, they should do so.

The logical approach to drafting a statement is first to define the needs (Part 2), then the provision to meet those needs (Part 3), and finally to name a school that can meet those needs (Part 4). Unless all of the provision in Part 3 is adequately specified, the right school may not be named. Accordingly, even if the school placement is the most important aspect for a child, special educational provision should still be specified in Part 3.

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flyingmum · 21/05/2007 17:20

I wrote my son's and they eventually (24 hours before tribunal) accepted it. You have to get part 2 right so that part 3 can state what is needed. The LEAs will do ANYTHING to get out of quantifying any provision and they will try and make out and put SALT and OT and anything else in 'Non Educational Provision', ie, its not up to them its the NHS job to provide it. 'Appropriate Speech and Language therapy' meant, in my son's case, one visit (if we were lucky) a year by a SALT and three or four worksheets given to the LSA. Hopeless beyond belief. He didn't ever get any OT which he really did need. I got a lot of help from a really good book called 'Surviving the Special Educational Needs System - How to be a velvet buldozer' - if you type in Velvet Buldozer apart from some rather 'different . . .' sites you will get her website as well which has tons of useful stuff on it. Also ACE is the Advisory Centre for Education www.ace-ed.org.uk. SOS!SEN are fantastic - [email protected]. Oaasis is also a fund of knowledge - www.oaasis.co.uk.

Hope this helps.

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Homsa · 21/05/2007 20:55

Cool, so there is actually some case law I can quote when asking for more "specificity"!

The person from the NAS helpline through the statement today and said it was too vague even if it was intended for a special school, and that she feared for any child with SEN who was sent to ms school with such a statement...!

Well I'm fully prepared to take this to tribunal, I guess we'll just have to pretend that we have the finances to pay a top solicitor and hope they back down like in your case, flyingmum!

I've now arranged a meeting with the LEA for next Wednesday, so thanks everyone for all the information and links, I'll spend the next few days checking them out (have already ordered the "velvet bulldozer" book - amazon one-click ordering is going to be my ruin ;-)

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magso · 22/05/2007 11:50

We have received a similarly vague draft statement for DS age 7 MLD ASD trates ADHD S&L delay etc, which does not mention teaching assistants or support. It does say 'provision to be made by the school from existing resourses'. School (MS)have had their budget for SEN and TAs cut and Ds got almost no support before the cut!! So far he has come home to lunch (insufficient staff to support DS) and Ive all but given up work to support DS (go on trips, change him etc.) I have done as ACE suggest in their downloadable document 'Getting the Statement Right' (similar to Sphil) and plan to ask for a meeting. Thankyou for you thread, I cannot get through to anyone ( parent partnership/ IPsea)so it helpful to me also.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/05/2007 12:29

"provision to be made by the school from existing resourses".

Oh dear, more and more LEA's are doing this and on IPSEA's website they are campaigning against it (www.ipsea.org.uk).

You realise that LEA's are not supposed to devolve resources to the schools!!!. It does nto help children at all who need statements; woolly statements like the one you've received are not worth the paper they are written on.

Meet with this LEA and speak your mind!!.

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magso · 22/05/2007 13:19

Thanks Attila. You have hit the nail on the head. Devolution of funds sounds sensible but doesnt help the vunerable children it is supposed to help! I feel my son has been abandoned by the whole system! And yes I am angry!

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Homsa · 22/05/2007 22:10

Hi magso, I remember your thread about writing the parental representation! Please post how your meeting with the LEA went, and if you have any tips!

I've contacted SOS!SEN as advised by flyingmum and they've written back already, I'll speak to someone tomorrow.

Are you aware of something called a Dfes toolkit? There is one about writing statements that can be downloaded from teachernet.gov.uk, I found that quite useful as it had some phrases I could copy.

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electra · 22/05/2007 23:03

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magso · 23/05/2007 15:54

Thankyou Homsa. I rang to make an appointment, (and to stop the clock on our 15 day limit) and was told I could not do that till after speaking to school in 2 days time. Apparently it is up to school to decide on support for Ds not the LEA. I feel in a catch 22 situation where I cannot move my child to a more supportive school (or even a MLD school) without a supportive statement but it seems we are dependent on his present school recognising his needs and in particular his MLD as opposed to the physical things like speach delay! Good luck with your sons statement.

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Homsa · 23/05/2007 20:51

Magso, this sound like delay-tactics to me.

Schedule 27 of the Education Act 1996 states:
Parents may express a preference for the maintained school (but not a PRU or hospital school) they wish their child to attend, or make representations for a placement in another school. LEAs must comply with a parental preference unless the school is unsuitable to the Childs age, ability, aptitude or special educational needs, or the placement would be incompatible with the efficient education of the other children with whom the child would be educated, or with the efficient use of resources. LEAs must consider parental representations and arrange any meeting(s) with LEA advisers or officers the parents seek, before issuing the final statement.

Not a word in there about speaking to the school first! The school should have had their chance to make their views know during the asessment process, it's a bit late now! I'd definitely send a letter to the LEA saying you don't agree with the proposed statement and you want to make parental representations and hold a meeting. Just so they can't pretend later they haven't heard from you...

I spoke to someone from SOS!SEN today and she was very knowledgeable, but the conversation left me pretty depressed as she said that without spending thousands of pounds on independent assessments and legal representation, we don't stand a chance at tribunal. I don't know if I can take that gamble. If we spend all the savings we have left on this and lose, then there is no money left for the ABA programme, which we'd otherwise be able to run until the end of the year.

On a positive note, I got through to IPSEA today! Yay! I couldn't believe I finally managed to speak to someone. Hopefully they have some good ideas...

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Homsa · 23/05/2007 20:55

On the other hand, I think I can see what you mean, electra. If we don't get funding for ABA at the tribunal, we might at least end up with a decent number of hours written into the statement, which would be much better than what we have now...

Have you been to tribunal, and what was it like? Would it be possible to pretend to the LEA that you're gathering legal advice, independent assessments etc in the run-up to the hearing when actually you're not and you're going to represent yourself - as a game of bluff IYSWIM?

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magso · 24/05/2007 16:55

Well done Homsa! I had begun to wonder if Ipsea was always unmanned! Sorry the advise was not encouraging. I had not considered the cost of tribunals so thankyou for that post!
I will still ask for a meeting just wait till after the school meeting. The local MLD school is lovely with happy kids many like DS. If he was 3 years younger (and I had present knowledge, he was doing well at home pre starting school) that is what I would choose for him without a doubt. However he really wants to stay where he is! (the usual exessive fear of change) So the ideal answer is to get him decent support where his 'friends' are. I will see what the school offer! I had not realised the devolved system leaves schools to decide not the LEA. If they cannot support him properly I can show him what will stay the same ( Beavers, clubs)I fight whatever is best!

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flyingmum · 25/05/2007 11:39

Hi. Just a note regarding the costs as we too were scared witless by SOS!SENs gloomy predictions re costs. We had Independent Ed Psyc (not the one that SOS recommended who was going to be aroun £900) which cost £500, Indp OT = £500 and Ind SALT - £475. Each of these provided a massive report, spent over 2 hours on the assessment and it meant that my son got it specified EXACTLY what was needed which we were then able to 1. Use their reports to write part 2 and 2. Use their recommendations for part 3 and the School bit. I must admit, we struggled to find the money and there is not only those costs but driving round the country going to these things and bribes (eating out!) for the son. We were really lucky in the fact that our LEA Ed psych saw him on a really bad day and then wrote a humdinger of a report which the LEA could not wriggle out of.

For representation there are charities that will help you. I used a fab lady called Claire Franklin from an organisation called ASSET. She does charge but it is a fraction of the cost of a Melinda Nettleton type solicitor. You do have to consider though that if you want your child to go to a mega expensive private Special school - and some are over £100,000 per year then the LEAs will fight this tooth and nail and may well put up a barister at the tribunal. This is then going to cost you more as you will have to pay for a barrister as well but if you think that your child will be getting from aged 11-16 half a million pounds worth of education - then it puts it in perspective. For just a statement - you will probablly be fine with a rep from a charity or even doing it yourself. Can send you Claire Franklin's email address if you wish.

I was really wibbly wobbly through most of this and really had to do a lot of loin girding (my own - although it could be interesting ) but then this is what the LEAs are counting on - parents not being able to carry on.

Sorry this is so long. Best wishes

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Homsa · 25/05/2007 14:06

Thanks everyone.

We had the transition meeting today, with nursery, the SENCO from school, the ed psych, an early years support teacher, and me and our nursery shadow. I found it quite tricky as I didn't want to go in there all guns blazing and put everybody's back up, but at the same time I had to make it quite clear that I wanted the ABA programme to continue, that I wanted the teaching staff to sing from the same hymn sheet as us (i.e. get ABA training from our consultant), and a phased integration (this may well be the trickiest part). I think it was quite good that our shadow was there to describe what she does with DS at nursery, as people seemd to think she sits with him in a corner and does DDT, which would be a major waste of socialisation opportunities! So I think we've managed to raise awareness of what we're doing, and the SENCO certainly seemed open to new ideas.

Anyway. Next one up is the meeting with the LEA, and I expect I'll walk out of there fuming!

Thanks for posting about the costs flyingmum, that doesn't sound so bad (well not as bad as I thought at least...) Yes if you'd email me Claire Franklin's details, that would be great!

magso, people at the meeting were also trying to tell me that "don't worry about the statement, the school will sort things out". Well I'd rather not rely on that! They may well be very good and put a social skills group and motor control programmes and whatever in place, but I want that specified in the statement, otherwise it's unenforceable! Hope you'll get someone to give you proper advice soon. Do keep trying IPSEA, as my experience shows, it is possible to get through!

Good luck
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Homsa · 30/05/2007 12:07

magso, how have you been getting on? Have you had your school meeting yet? I'm now finally starting to understand what you mean by devolving funds to the school, apparently this is going on all over the country (my LEA is planning to do it as well), and IPSEA are very concerned about it and are trying to find ways of challenging it.

We had our meeting with the LEA officer this morning and it was actually quite pleasant! The guy was a bit bemused by our demands, but dutifully scribbled down everything I said and promised to amend the statement and send me a copy to approve or make further requests for changes. He said it would then go to the SEN panel who would decide which of these changes they would allow and which they wouldn't. I also left him with some kind of a "mission statement" regarding our ABA programme, suggested wording for that part of the statement, and a breakdown of costs. This will be passed to the SEN panel as well.

I'm not expecting them to agree to fund ABA, but they might approve some of the other changes, so that would be a step forward. And then we can appeal to SENDIST. As IPSEA have said they'll provide us with legal advice and a barrister to represent us at tribunal, we really haven't got anything to lose... I'm feeling quite positive all of a sudden!

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electra · 31/05/2007 21:52

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Homsa · 01/06/2007 13:58

Thanks electra, I recognise you now from earlier threads!

I'll email you today, as I'd love to hear about your experiences! I don't think we've given anything away at the meeting, but you're right, it's better to be careful...

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