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BS stands for Baker Small and they are in trouble

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senvet Thu 16-Jun-16 02:30:21

See BS thread for the latest, but they tweeted gloating tweets, at least 3 LAs have issued strong responses and the solicitor has had to refer himself to his own disciplinary body.

I wonder if they take evidence from the general public?

ANewDayANewName Thu 16-Jun-16 07:22:50

BS is being very actively discussed in AIBU. Please join us and help put this odious firm out of business

Is this appropriate conduct for solicitors

JudyCoolibar Thu 16-Jun-16 07:44:53

I think anyone can report them to the Solicitors' Regulation Authority, and I would suggest all parents of children with SEN do so.

Lottielou7 Thu 16-Jun-16 11:14:01

I reported them. I've also contacted our local evening news as our LA uses Baker Small and they haven't released a statement about what they intend to do.

mumsuzz Thu 16-Jun-16 13:22:19

There;s a good article in the Guardian about them - sorry Im no good at links but a number of LAs are ending their contracts with them.

WorcestershireYP Fri 17-Jun-16 10:18:20

Will someone please contact the Worcester News and contact WCC to out them? They have confirmed they will continue to use Baker Small, with full knowledge of this week's press coverage and tweets. I cannot do this as I am in the very awful position of being in the middle of a tribunal against them sad Makes me feel sick and I can't function at the moment. I am shaking most of the time, literally and keep bursting into tears

unicornpoo1 Fri 17-Jun-16 10:30:13

I'm in a similar position WorcestershireYP, they've responded to a comment on Twitter saying that they don't condone his comments and are considering their future actions. Hopefully they stop using them.

Lottielou7 Fri 17-Jun-16 10:44:09

I've pmed you Worcestershire

Lottielou7 Fri 17-Jun-16 12:38:06

I'm trying to establish if they have actually released a statement about this. Their response to the original tweets said that they done condone the tweets but BS has apologised and it's not about any cases in Worcestershire but that's irrelevant really.

ANewDayANewName Fri 17-Jun-16 13:16:25

For anyone whose being effected by the Baker Small scandal for imminent tribunals, please read the SOS!SEN website - there's a PDF on there (can't link on the phone) with advice which they released on Monday. Basically, their advice is to get a printout of the tweets and submit to the judge.

IPSEA has just an hour ago released their complaint letter to the SRA - it's on their site. Get that to the judge too.

Ask to have Baker Small barred from any proceedings.

Email the IPSEA SRA omplaint letter to the top person in your LA - I'd suggest copying in your MP too.

AugustaFinkNottle Fri 17-Jun-16 14:10:11

Worcestershire, I would strongly suggest contacting your local councillors, MP, the Council lead, the head of the Education Department and the Chief Executive and make it very clear that you find the prospect of dealing with BS any more extremely distressing. Also apply to the tribunal and spell out the effect this is having on you, and say their involvement in the tribunal is so distressing to you that you won't be able to present your appeal properly. Point out that the council won't be prejudiced as they have their own officers who are very familiar with your case, or they could presumably instruct other solicitors or barristers.

It could be worth contacting IPSEA and/or SOS SEN to see if they would write something supporting you.

MidlandsNameChanger Fri 17-Jun-16 15:10:58

Good luck WorcestershireYP
I have had lots of dealings with the cc and think it's shocking that they use BS.

JudyCoolibar Fri 17-Jun-16 15:37:15

Advice on this on SOS SEN's Facebook site -

ANewDayANewName Fri 17-Jun-16 17:25:19

This is SOS!SEN's advice from the FB page

We have been asked to advise parents with ongoing appeals where their LAs are still being represented by Baker Small since they are unhappy about facing a representative of an organisation which is capable of producing the tweets they sent last weekend.

As parents, you do not have the right to dictate which solicitors your LA chooses, but you can obviously make representations about this not least as your Council Tax is being used for the purpose. We would therefore suggest that parents and carers affected write directly to the relevant caseworker at the LA, copying in the Head of SEN, stating their views about the prospect of any information or documents about their child going to Baker Small or anyone employed or subcontracted by them, asking that they should have no involvement in their children's cases, and asking them to confirm that (where relevant) they will retrieve all documents from them and arrange for any document sent electronically to them to be permanently deleted

Anyone in the LA areas concerned who is lodging a new appeal should include a request that the LA are not represented by Baker Small in light of their behaviour and the major stress it would cause you to know that your child's confidential information is being handled by a firm which has displayed the attitudes in question and which is prepared to use social media to poke fun at parents such as you.

For those already involved in appeals, the important issue is fairness, and your ability to present your case or give evidence properly and without unnecessary stress If you believe that that will not be possible if your opponents are from this firm, we would suggest lodging a Request for Changes asking that the LA be directed to make alternative arrangements (e.g. having their case presented by their own officers, or instructing a barrister) because their involvement will prejudice your right to a fair hearing. You should give details of how this is affecting you. Refer to the fact that Baker Small has shown itself to have a highly inappropriate attitude to the families of disabled children, particularly those appealing to the tribunal, and that no-one can be satisfied that they will not feel it appropriate to publish similar comments on social media about your case. The fact that they may not name anyone, as was the case last weekend, makes no difference to parents who know that it is their case the firm is writing about. It is reasonable to point out that they did not apparently have full regard to their LA clients' confidentiality rights when they tweeted and therefore you are not satisfied they would preserve your children's confidentiality. If it is the case that the prospect of dealing with members of Baker Small, or of their having continued access to information about your children is causing you so much stress that it affects your ability to prepare and present your case, or to give evidence, then say so. It will then be a matter for the Tribunal Judge's discretion.

We also suggest that parents and carers should additionally make urgent representations to their local councillors, the Leader of the Council, their MP and the SEN department at the Department for Education. Also contact other senior officials within the council such as the heads of SEN and the Education Department, and the Chief Executive.

Spoc123 Sat 18-Jun-16 11:14:24

Scarily it appears that one Baker Small solicitor is also an IPSEA tribunal support person. Dunno about anyone else but this doesn't sit comfortably with me.

AugustaFinkNottle Sun 19-Jun-16 09:18:39

Me neither. I'd be worried they're using their knowledge of IPSEA strategies to help LAs in cases against parents.

StarlightMcKenzee Sun 19-Jun-16 20:45:47

How do you know that Spoc?

coffeeaddictedandfat Sun 19-Jun-16 21:25:28

oh, googled this and found the linkedin profile if this person.....

coffeeaddictedandfat Sun 19-Jun-16 21:28:49

not sure if I can name her here but can PM....

Borka Sun 19-Jun-16 22:00:38

I don't think there's any harm in linking to something that's easy to find by googling, like this.

After all, it's information that she's put in the public domain.

coffeeaddictedandfat Sun 19-Jun-16 22:04:10

true smile

ANewDayANewName Mon 20-Jun-16 08:15:25

Logout of LinkedIn before you click borka's link though

ANewDayANewName Tue 21-Jun-16 20:24:55

MS appears to be rising from the ashes

bjkmummy Tue 21-Jun-16 21:13:20

didnt take him long did it........

Spoc123 Tue 21-Jun-16 21:21:55

Well I guess you'd have to have a conscience to lay low for a while, not sure that's an attribute that is obvious from what's been in the media?

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