how to help asd Ds rhyme words

[amunt]

5 yr old Ds can't hear/identify the rhyme in words. He would not identify that fat and hat rhyme, but water doesn’t. This makes his learning to read slower as he can’t hear the pattern in make/take/cake etc… We have done loads of practice, but he can’t get/hear it.
Anyone had something similar? Tips?
Thanks

[PirateJones]

I agree with ZZZZZ focus only on objects for now and play matching.

[amunt]

Brilliant, thanks! I only went to reading the words to see if it helped. But using objects or pictures instead of just the sound of the word is a great idea.

[Ineedmorepatience]

We used to make up rhymes like Time for bed, Fred and In the shower flower and stuff like that.

Dd3 was a whole word reader, she didnt learn phonics and still find them difficult now. Not all children learn to read using phonics and lots of children with Asd learn in different ways!

Make sure his school are not relying on one teaching method!

[Moonandstarsandback]

We used to play 'I spy something rhyming with' game eg... Pin...tin...fin etc and I'd say words and if he could he'd say to...we'd do it together.
If you go on Twinkl website and look under letters and sounds phase 2, there are cvc word cards with pictures eg 'tap' with picture of tap - so you can see visually as well as written word ending. You could play a pairs type game and match rhyming words eg, man/van, tin/pin....

[Moonandstarsandback]

Also, 'phonics play' website is good for short games - I'd look at phase 2 to start with.

[amunt]

Thanks for all the great suggestions. He can actually read phonetically quite well, but not hearing the pattern in words like soap boat coat etc... means they all have to be learnt individually. I much appreciate your great ideas.

[Moonandstarsandback]

Ah ok, so he's mastered phonics mostly. Have you/he read or listened to any Dr Seuss stories. They are very rhyming and fun! We have some books but also listen to audio books in the car... ??

[Ineedmorepatience]

Another thing we did with Dd3 was to make cvc words in patterns eg Make a card with "in" and then add an initial sound so "p" to make pin then change it to "b" to make bin "t" to make tin etc. You can do it with loads of different words and letters. It might help him to understand that words that end the same can sound the same.

[Youarenotkiddingme]

It's worth considering difficulties with phonological awareness. I don't know much about it but it's been suggested my DS, aged 11, ASD, struggles with this. It's the ability to hear the sounds so teaching of phonics isn't highly useful to these children.

Ds is due to see ed pysch soon and I've asked to look into this. If I get any advice I'll post it here.

[Youarenotkiddingme]

How is his speech? My ds says things like exscape instead of escape

He will spell compete when asked to write complete

Things like this will create a barrier even if they know phonics because if Mis hearing. I think that's also related to auditory processing or hearing.