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How many hours 1:1 on EHCP

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amunt Mon 28-Mar-16 10:09:20

Ds (asd) cannot learn independently or stay on task for prolonged periods and if left unsupervised would end up just lying on the floor.

Predictably there are no 1:1 hours stated on draft EHCP. How many should I asked to be included?

coffeemachine Mon 28-Mar-16 10:29:00

is it for MS or SS?
What do the reports (EP etc) say about his support needs?

amunt Mon 28-Mar-16 22:06:49

Thanks coffeemachine. It's for MS. The reports are vague. But the teacher supports the information that I have given that if left unattended he is lost and cannot redirect himself. He also checks out mentally when required to attend to whole class teaching.

coffeemachine Tue 29-Mar-16 00:14:19

I would think you need back up in the reports but the EHCP must be properly specified and quantified.

I would ring IPSEA or SOSSEN

StarlightMcKenzee Tue 29-Mar-16 13:03:35

Sounds like full-time, and then extra for training and supervision, and to be taken on by someone with a HLTA qualification and several years experience, to me.

AugustaFinkNottle Tue 29-Mar-16 18:54:25

The LA won't specify unless there is a report advising them of what to do. I suggest you go back to them and point out that they are required by law to specify and quantify provision in section F (refer them to paragraph 9.69 of the Code of Practice) and ask them to go back to the educational psychologist and ask him or her to specify how much 1:1 support your child needs. If you've got the EP's contact details, you could try writing to them direct yourself.

amunt Tue 29-Mar-16 20:45:07

It's all a bit of a muddle because he has made a staggering amount progress over the last few months with ABA. In the draft meeting The Ed Psych said he might now not even get the EHCP passed, but also spent the whole time saying it couldn't be the ABA - even though each improvement has been targeted by a specific programme. Reports from the same EdPsych and autism advisory professional were vague and incorrect in many areas.

I'm tempted to find out where I can make a high level complaint, given the institutional failure and my loss of faith in the local system.

coffeemachine Wed 30-Mar-16 06:49:03

Not sure about the best way to get ABA into his EHCP (if thatbis what you want) but my guess your best bet would be to get them to finalise the EHCP and appeal (and get your own reports done in due process).

don't waste time and energy at that stage on a complaint. these usually lead nowhere.

AugustaFinkNottle Wed 30-Mar-16 09:59:20

Did you provide a report from the ABA consultant to the LA? If not, I suggest you do that now.

amunt Wed 30-Mar-16 10:54:39

I didn't AugustaFinkNottle because I assumed the LA (anti ABA) would just dismiss it as 'well they would say that'. But maybe you're right.

StarlightMcKenzee Wed 30-Mar-16 17:10:18


amunt Wed 30-Mar-16 18:48:47

You got it StarlightMcKenzee. Part of me thinks it would be better to save complaints for appeal. But, I am also tempted to go a bit nuclear and present evidence to anyone I can, including MP, that LA professionals have not been acting in the best interests of the child. The case is very clear cut because he's gone from being a danger to himself and others to sitting on the mat for 30 minutes with other children today (yay!) - in around 4 months. I'm not having that written off as maturation and settling in.

StarlightMcKenzee Wed 30-Mar-16 23:21:03

I reccognised the LA so completely. I'm sorry you're with them. I like to think they've progressed but clearly they are the same as they were 5 years ago.

They are completely pathologically frightened of ABA. It threatens all they have built their beliefs on and are so endrenched in their own bad practice even the NAS and their low standards couldn't accredit any of their so called ASD provision.

Professionals refuse to come and see a child's programme on the basis that ABA is brainwashing of NTs. The evidence for this is that professionals who have seen it come back in favour of it.

StarlightMcKenzee Wed 30-Mar-16 23:22:15

People have gone before you with complaints, with MPs, with the LGO. Perhaps the constant chipping away has made a difference!?

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