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ASD in primary school

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Pineapple5678 Wed 13-Jan-16 15:40:32

If you have a child in Ms primary what adjustments or support have been put in place for them ?

My son is 8 and currently receives no support I'm just wondering what others do

zzzzz Wed 13-Jan-16 16:22:34

Full time 1:1, EP yearly, OT, special writing slope/wobble cushion, SALT planned language therapy, play/chill area, support with toiletting, on demand parent input, special arrangements for all trips in collaboration with parents, application for ehcp support, proactive inclusion positive assemblies and newsletters, special arrangements for beginning and end of day.

zzzzz Wed 13-Jan-16 16:23:11

Nb ALL without EHCP or dx.

Pineapple5678 Wed 13-Jan-16 16:28:57

Wow zzzzz. What year is your son in?

The school did a flow chart assessment for OT decided referral not nessascary. One of the things it did highlight was need for a wobble cushion but school have said this is just for infants.

zzzzz Wed 13-Jan-16 16:41:34

He's 10.

Pineapple5678 Wed 13-Jan-16 16:52:02

That's interesting. Thank you

PhilPhilConnors Wed 13-Jan-16 16:57:50

10 yr old ds. Diagnosis of HFA/PDA.
No support whatsoever.
He masks, but has giddy outbursts which are seen as naughtiness.

zzzzz Wed 13-Jan-16 17:12:33

nb my child is not anywhere near "quirky" or "just a bit eccentric".

PolterGoose Wed 13-Jan-16 17:45:02

'Quirky' and 'just a bit eccentric' aren't SNs though are they?

OP, my ds in theory had 15 hours LSA support at primary, through high needs funding, this included 1-1 at break times, in reality he didn't get much at all.

Borka Wed 13-Jan-16 22:13:24

DS is 7, in yr 2. He has Lego club once a week, a session in the sensory room once a week, and is allowed to go into class avoiding the playground in the morning.

barsteward Wed 13-Jan-16 23:35:48

My DD is 8 and in year 4. She has no support either. She has a diagnosis of ASD and she's waiting for a dyspraxia assessment. She has significant difficulties at school particularly at break and lunchtime. She spends a lot of time at school in tears, is very anxious and has difficulty eating. Her difficulties and associated behaviour are getting worse as she gets older, she is significantly worse than she was 2 years ago. I would go as far as to say she's had a total personality change since she was in infants. It's heartbreaking to watch. I totally see her reaching crisis point at secondary, if not before.

zzzzz Wed 13-Jan-16 23:40:23

I'm not sure what you are trying to say polt?

What I meant is that it would not be possible to dismiss my ds1s needs as "quirky or eccentric" or anywhere near the normal range of difficulties a struggling but nt child might have and so that fact may make accessing provision easier for us.

OneInEight Thu 14-Jan-16 07:35:58

Mine had no support until they reached the chair-throwing stage.

Then they had lunchtime club once a week, TA support if they were having a bad day in the classroom, behaviour book (positive), in theory a safe place to retreat to (only they never managed to use it), withdrawal from lessons / assemblies some of time if noisy or a particular subject e.g. RE that caused problems, permission to come in late to avoid the crowds, permission to come home at lunchtime, careful positioning in the classroom to minimise stress e.g. furthest away from background noise and coming and going.

The profile of mine is academically bright but high anxiety & social communication difficulties leading to challenging behaviour

barsteward Thu 14-Jan-16 07:38:55

No one's talking about a quirky NT child though zzzzz.
As this is the SN board I assumed we were all talking about children with actual SN. You are incredibly naive if you think accessing provision is easy even if your child has significant difficulties. Just because you have found it to be so doesn't mean it's true for everyone else.

PhilPhilConnors Thu 14-Jan-16 08:04:39

My son's needs at school look like a bit of anxiety sometimes, because he keeps it all in (I believe with SN, particularly ASD it's common for children to mask, but masking is not coping, which many people assume it is).
What they don't see (and don't care about) is that treating him as NT means that our home life is chaotic at best, war-zone at worst.

zzzzz Thu 14-Jan-16 08:12:39

barsteward i didn't say I found it easy. I said, this is the provision MY child has. What on earth makes you think attaining it was easy shock?
I've been posting here for many years. It is I think important to qualify "my child has no dx" with "he is not a mild presentation" because many people assume more severely disabled children have a clearer path OR that no dx implies a boderline difficulty.

Tambaboy Thu 14-Jan-16 16:58:43

Ds is 9 and Y4. He has an EHCP , he gets 30 hours support a week. The schools works through his SALT (including Language for Thinking) and OT targets (
Sensory diet and ball skills) ;wobble cushion; writing slope; workstation for when he wants it/needs it; fiddle toys and stress balls; chewy toy; individual support in day trips and residentials; social and emotional intervention; hearing loop. He gets lots of support with numeracy also and literacy as he is well below average.

Sirzy Thu 14-Jan-16 17:04:02

Ds has no formal diagnosis of autism yet (although no doubt he is autistic!) and has dyspraxia.

No EHCP yet - although that is being applied for soon. He is year 1 and gets some 1-1 time in class each day and small group work. He also always has a ta working with his group who pretty much 1-1s him all day but not officially!

He doesn't go to most assemblies so he can do some of the target work from OT and salt and a ta also attends his weekly OT session in school.

Ed psych has been in once and will continue to come in annually.

2boysnamedR Thu 14-Jan-16 18:25:15

I think I might be finding out soon, still no ed physic for my sons ehcp.....

Zzzzz - why do you think he hasn't had a Dx yet? Seems like he really warrants it with the level of school support. Normally you hear Dx is hard because school dismiss needs. Or is it just taking ages?

2boysnamedR Thu 14-Jan-16 18:26:58

Ed physic??? EP person. I have just realised I can't spell autism either!!!! No wonder I never get anywhere with my kids Sen provision wink

zzzzz Thu 14-Jan-16 19:14:59

EHCP and dx are in the pipeline. But support in school was put in first. Like OP (I assume) what would have helped is knowing WHAT is available/possible which is why I've listed it like that. There are many children without dx yet severely disabled. Someone on here said half the children at her child's SS didn't have dx.
For us dx was slower because their was some question as to if ds had autism or a very severe language disorder. So we opted to wait till he was 7ish to see if that made things more clear. Unfortunately at that point Virgin Care took over the dx process here so rather than just plumping either way we had to go on the list to be reassessed....3 years later we have now completed that process and all is coming together for EHCP too. It's been a bit of a journey smile

zzzzz Thu 14-Jan-16 19:17:30

Sorry their there shock I am tired

Pineapple5678 Thu 14-Jan-16 21:31:03

Thank you all for your replies all very helpful.
I've finally have got a refferal to ot and salt after a meeting today. The reports will highlight exactly where my sons strengths and weakness's are and then I can push for provision.

2boysnamedR Thu 14-Jan-16 23:27:44

Ok zzzz ( can I spell that wrong too?) I think that's very common ( I'm virgin care I wonder if we are close) we was offered Dx at 3 or a wait and see but with a warning that a "wait and see how it pans out" could be "never" so we took the Dx. My toddler could only pass as neurotypical when he's asleep ;0)

I did hear today of someone being Dx out of the blue really. I was shock that when things were really needed the NHS could actually just do that.
I guess your the shining example of "provision is related to needs not diagnosis" which is how it should be.

Obs2016 Fri 15-Jan-16 13:32:06

Ds1 AS ( plus suggested PDA) had no support in Primary.

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