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My 6 year old with ASD-permanent exclusion

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drypond Wed 25-Nov-15 00:02:06

I am completely and totally devastated. I just don't know what to do, he as always been a handful for school but with the right help he had calmed down where there was rarely an incident. Back end of year 1 he got a new teacher and a new head teacher arrived and it's been down hill since.

Our last TAC was in May, schools refused point blank to have one, his behaviour is completely unrecognisable at school and he's had fixed day exclusions 2 in year 1 and 4 this year (I think) he's thrown chairs and hit staff but in my opinion school have not taken on board advice given to them.

The permanent exclusion as come from something really so small it's unreal and when asking my son what happened he's told a different version to the teacher and I believe my son due to the fact his ASD prevents him making a story up and he's gone into too much detail for it to be false.

This school was the perfect school for my son up until July this year, my son is now broken, I feel broken and I don't know where we go from here, the ehcp is smack bang in the middle of assessment.

Feel so lost, he looks so lost. We have no issues at home he's so placid now :-(

OneInEight Wed 25-Nov-15 07:03:42

First flowers.

I have been in your shoes and it is horrible.

Action plan.

In your exclusion letter you should have been given contact numbers for the LA's exclusion officer. Contact them this morning to ask what happens next.

They have a duty to resume your ds within a week to fulltime education. In the meantime the excluding school should be sending work home and marking it. Generally this would be a short term placement at a PRU and then a managed move to another mainstream school within about six weeks.

You have a right to appeal. Whether or not you want to devote energy to it is another matter entirely as it sounds that the support the school was giving was very poor.

If he has not got one already apply for an EHCP plan so that he is better supported in his next school. You can get your letter in today (see IPSEA website for model letters).

Just remember there is light at the end of the tunnel. Exclusions are horrible but for ds1 it meant he finally got the support he needed and he is doing really well now.

ruthsmaoui77 Wed 25-Nov-15 09:27:20

oneineight has already given you the best advice I just wanted to say you are not alone. My ASD son (9) is at home with a fixed term exclusion after punching a child who had been provoking him for months. It's horrible but as oneineight says I have to find the positive in it. This will help to secure him an EHCP so he can get the support he needs. It sounds as though your sons school were not prepared to support him and he would be better off to have a fresh start in another school which would support his needs better. Big Hugs {{{{}}}}}}. My son is also very placid at home - I do think they behave differently at school because they just can't cope with the social aspects of it, the noise, the rules - in general the school environment is so hard for a child with ASD to navigate and that is why they need appropriate support. Good Luck and let us know how you get on x. I may need your advice shortly.

drypond Wed 25-Nov-15 14:18:17

I've ring the exclusions number and found out it as been made a permanent exclusion school haven't let me know yet which is just ridiculous.

School have had support in just not listen, the ehcp is in the assessment phase think panel meet shortly.

I feel he's been bullied out of the school, I want someone held accountable, I feel he's been discriminated against but I also feel absolutely devastated and sick.

In the space of 12 weeks he's gone from almost unnoticeable in the classroom to exclusions. I know he would not have acted the way he's acted had he been given proper care they've also been giving him dairy products when they shouldn't have which affects his behaviour 😞

They've broken my little boy

GruntledOne Wed 25-Nov-15 15:20:00

Contact the School Exclusions Project or Communities Empowerment Network. Both give free advice and support around school exclusions.

Ineedmorepatience Wed 25-Nov-15 17:13:48

If you think there is disability discrimination going on, ring IPSEA , they will help you to work through it!

The law is very strong for disabled people but only if you know about it!

Sorry you are having to deal with this sad flowers

drypond Thu 26-Nov-15 10:03:14

It's such a mess 😞 I'll give ipsea a ring, do you know if parent partnership can help on these matters? I have a tac week on Monday that I've been asking for for ages and they've only agreed to it since the permanent exclusion 😡😡 thank you for all your help needed a mini rant about it somewhere

drypond Thu 26-Nov-15 10:08:48

Saved those sites too thankyou xx

Ineedmorepatience Thu 26-Nov-15 10:37:06

Most parent partnerships have changed their names to Independent advisory support service or something similar! They are still paid by the LA so some wont be massively independent!

The LA I live in has a fairly rubbish IASS but the one in the next LA is awesome and the staff are really independent!

Postcode lottery unfortunately but certainly worth a try!

OneInEight Thu 26-Nov-15 14:08:11

A permanent exclusion has to be ratified by the school governer's and you should be invited to this meeting. I am pretty sure we were allowed to bring an advisor with us too. We were told appeals were rarely successful but if school were not following explicit instructions about dairy foods then I would have thought you have a good case. Now whether or not this being the case you want him to go back to this school is another matter entirely. We chose not to appeal but to devote our energies into getting a statement and a better placement for ds1. In our case we didn't even have a diagnosis for ds1 although an ASD was suspected and confirmed a few months later. It is a sad fact that children with an SN are far more likely to be excluded than NT children.

GruntledOne Thu 26-Nov-15 22:18:49

Yes, you can bring an adviser or representative to a governors' meeting. Make sure that any they are given copies of any reports that have been prepared for the EHC assessment, including the school's initial request. The two organisations I referred to above can support you with that.

Youarentkiddingme Fri 27-Nov-15 07:05:03

flowers sorry to hear it's gone downhill so quickly.
I can only echo the above advice.
Make sure you have everything your son has said logged and also you have a clear explanation of why he was excluded and what they did to prevent it.
I'd counter argue with things like the dairy.

drypond Fri 27-Nov-15 07:58:17

We have a TAC on the 7th, the parent partnership we have is brilliant and impartial I've looked at my paper work and he has 5 exclusions this school year most half days or 1 and half day exclusions then this last one for 10 days

The EHCP all forms are in, the LA have agreed to assess they meet in January for the assessment (I think)

They've been refusing TAC meetings so there's been nothing done after each exclusion, there as been the odd time he has thrown chairs which I understand is severe and needs addressing lots of things put in place for when he's angry but nothing to prevent him getting angry and the recommendations given that the teacher used last year they aren't doing

What a bloody mess, last TAC in May he was requiring less and less support new teacher and new head teacher came at same time and it's gone down

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