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ASD or ASC - what is the difference in diagnosis?

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bjkmummy Thu 11-Jun-15 12:23:40

my dd was seen by MS last year and dx with ASD - then we took dd to see DK a few months later and she confirmed the dx as ASD - MS dx under the ICD10 I think and DK under the dsm v.

However when the working document come from the LA they are referring to her dx as ASC - ive changed it to ASD as that's her dx in both reports but the LA refusing to change it from ASC!

Now am I just being overly precious about this - but I think it should be ASD as that is what two separate professionals have dx her with. In my LA they seem to have a thing about it being called ASC - I just wondered why and if im missing something ???

bbkl Thu 11-Jun-15 12:35:10

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bjkmummy Thu 11-Jun-15 12:49:48

indeed and the only people relating to ASC is the LA - interesting in her statement which was originally issued before the WD - they put ASD - think the EP is just being a pain and if its not such an issue then they should follow what the reports state. My LA EP has this habit of taking reports and re wording them!

bbkl Thu 11-Jun-15 13:15:40

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bjkmummy Thu 11-Jun-15 13:21:33

deffo arsey me thinks although wouldn't put it past them to undermine it but every other professional who has met her are all in agreement so they will look ridiculous if they do - judge at the last hearing asked them outright if they accepted the dx and they mumbled they did - if she didn't have the ASD dx it would make their position a lot easier but don't think they would dare to question it. that said also in the WD theres some snidey comment about how we had her seen privately and didn't go through the usual channels and how we have a 'family history' of asd and then twitters on about her brothers - ive asked for all of that to come out as its her statement not her brothers and neither of her brothers mention they have siblings with asd

youarekiddingme Thu 11-Jun-15 19:23:20

It's the same dx. It's just changed to ASC under DSM V. ICD 10 and DSM IV it's called asd.

Even though all DS paperwork said under assessment for asd the secondary he's transferring to kept referring to it as ASC.
When he was dx it was ASC too because waiting lists are so long the DSM V appeared during that time!

I would agree though with using asd I'd that's what official dx is.

Ineedmorepatience Thu 11-Jun-15 21:20:38

We had a similar thing with the senco at Dd3's old school she kept telling outside proffs that Dd3 had a dx or aspergers but she doesnt she has a dx of Asd! Then the proffs were all writing aspergers!

The paed offered to change the dx to aspergers but Dd3 was having none of it, she identified with the Asd dx and didnt want it changed although now she refers to herself as Aspie or Auty!! confused

The LA have no right to change the dx anyway bjk they are not qualified!!

bjkmummy Thu 11-Jun-15 21:25:29

In deed Ineed but this is my blooming LA isn't it!

Ineedmorepatience Thu 11-Jun-15 21:50:31


Am almost terrified to recieve Dd3's statement!! Goodness only knows what joys it will hold!!

PolterGoose Thu 11-Jun-15 21:52:14

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KeepOnKeepingOn1 Fri 12-Jun-15 12:28:01

All DS2's reports including from MS, local paeds and GOSH mention the fact that his brother has a diagnosis of ASD. This is because the NHS care pathway considers family history as a significant risk factor. Having a sibling with a diagnosis makes it (something like - on phone so can't check) 5 times more likely that recognised difficulties are due to ASD. I'd leave it in at this stage (part 2) even though not relevant to meeting DD's needs and so has no impact on part 3, as it backs rather than challenges dx.

Mollyweasley Fri 12-Jun-15 13:19:43

I think ASD is the official diagnosis. I wouldn't be happy about them changing it bjkmummy, it is very unprofessional on their part.

youarekiddingme Fri 12-Jun-15 19:26:42

I tend to say autism or autistic too. My mum disagrees and says DS is on the spectrum, not autistic confused

I did tell someone DS has an autistic spectrum condition last week and they said "which one, aspergers?" It seems that people expect some kind of further explanation to what condition it is?!

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