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Does ADHD exist? The Wright Stuff this morning

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sammythemummy Wed 12-Mar-14 10:12:48

I'm already rolling my eyes

ouryve Wed 12-Mar-14 10:14:58

Not even going to contribute to the viewing figures.

And someone on Twitter linked to a DM article this morning about ADHD and working mothers. Only read the intro, because I wasn't going to click through. Saw enough to make me roll my own eyes, though.

Foxy800 Wed 12-Mar-14 10:44:16

I missed it but probably am glad I did, I am a Mum of a dd with ADHD, I am also a single mum who has no choice but to work, however, I changed my hours at work so I could be round more for her as she is my world!!

Do you have a link to the DM article, would be interested to read it.x

ouryve Wed 12-Mar-14 10:52:00

C&Ped from twitter, so don't know if it will work for you (can't check as I have the kitten blocker on my laptop so I don't inadvertently make money for them)

Foxy800 Wed 12-Mar-14 10:55:28

Will take a look and see.Thanks.x

ouryve Wed 12-Mar-14 10:55:48

It's written my Michael Gove's wife.

Foxy800 Wed 12-Mar-14 10:59:06

It worked and oh my god is all I can say to that. It took 3 years of appointment after appointment for my dd to be diagnosed!!! Im so glad im not in the same room as the people in the article as I would have quite a lot to say!!!x

ouryve Wed 12-Mar-14 11:03:02

A good article about Dr Saul's book in additude mag, here

Foxy800 Wed 12-Mar-14 11:05:52

Ive just had a quick skim through.Shall have a proper look later.Thanks.x

bochead Wed 12-Mar-14 11:24:03

I can't believe I agreed with some aspects of the daily fail article!

DS was put through FOUR adhd assessments over the years at the request of teachers, who through no fault of their own are often not aware of the full range of neuro-disabilities. Eventually he was diagnosed with ASD & SPD, but it took 5 years. I had professionals in the family who had direct knowledge of what various conditions look like (Mum and Aunt both secondary SN teachers, several uncles who are doctors etc). Without their support, and had I been younger, the differences in my son's behavior at school & at home might not have been picked up.

I can easily see how an adhd diagnosis might be given by a rushed, overworked clinician to an unconfident parent who hasn't kept a diary of home behaviors. There isn't always a thorough effort made to rule out any less common ones such as the early stages of very early onset schizophrenia or bi-polar. Certainly differentiating between SPD & ADHD seems hard for many lay people until a child is over about 6-7 years.

ouryve Wed 12-Mar-14 12:15:20

The thing with DS1 is, even if the ADHD was a misdiagnosis and all his difficulties are ASD and SPD related, that doesn't explain why the medication he takes "for ADHD" improves his ability to communicate and improves his auditory processing (that was the first thing to go when we forgot to take his medication away with us, last month). It doesn't explain why his impulse control takes a nosedive when he has grown out of his dose. All the simple things we can do physically to calm him have very little effect, when he's unmedicated.

And when you analyse what ADHD is, it's a sensory processing issue, anyhow. The difference is that most of the issues defined within SPD relate to particular systems, whilst ADHD is more central and generalised. I think the differentiation between the two is mostly done by which specialist sees the child, in the first place.

sammythemummy Wed 12-Mar-14 12:17:35

Ive watched it and it wasn't bashing parents as the title might have indicated (apart from a couple of comments regarding unhealthy diet= ADHD). It was focusing as bochead some doctors missing other issues that could be the root cause for the hyperactivity in some children.

A couple of of phoners called in, one gorwn man with ADHD and another parent of a child with ADHD.

Foxy800 Wed 12-Mar-14 12:35:15

I did agree with quite a bit of it and it is easy to get a rushed diagnosis or to just label a child with ADHD. I was luck in that the school were very supportive with reports etc that were needed, I was a bit older and work in a childcare profession which meant I was a little more aware and like I said earlier it took 3 years to get a diagnosis.

I still stick by what I said earlier in that some of it would have led to choice words.x

bochead Thu 13-Mar-14 10:54:38

I suppose I'm saying that I think current assessments are often not performed in enough depth or breadth to rule out all possible issues. This leads to rarer conditions being missed all too often. I think there's an urgent need for more neurodevelopmental clinicians in the UK, as waiting times till assessment should not take the years that they currently do either.

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