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Discrepency between VR and NVR help

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pencil19 Wed 09-Oct-13 00:35:13

I have recently been told that my DD has a VR of 119 and NVR of 98. I was then directed to the SENCo, this has frightened the living daylights out of me. I know my daughter struggles with her Maths perhaps this is the answer, Id really appreciate any advise in analysing these scores.

LuvMyBoyz Wed 09-Oct-13 06:26:06

Average scores are between 85 and 115 (if these are standardised scores) so dd is average/above average.

pencil19 Wed 09-Oct-13 20:33:18

Thank you so much for replying. The scores are standardised, but it was the 21 point discrepancy that was their concern. However, I thought there was a concern the other way round, eg high NVR compared to a low VR which might indicate a specific learning difficulty.
Any thoughts?

ilikemysleep Thu 10-Oct-13 21:33:33

There is a discrepancy so her verbal reasoning is much better than her non-verbal reasoning. But as her non-verbal reasoning is perfectly average for her age - she's good at verbal, average at non-verbal - it doesn't necessarily indicate a particular problem.

The same sized gap can be more or less significant depending on where it is in a 'normal distribution' of scores (the standard bell shaped curve, with a big chunk of kids scoring around teh middle). For example, If her verbal was 95 and her non-verbal 21 points lower at 74, that would be much more worrying because she would have significant problems non-verbally. But this assessment suggests that she doesn't have actual reasoning problems in non-verbal reasoning, she's bang on where she 'should' be, but she's advanced verbally. She probably isn't as good at maths as English, and because language based reasoning comes so easily to her it may 'feel' hard to her and perhaps she lacks confidence? However, she shouldn't be really struggling.

If she is really struggling, either in acquiring literacy or numeracy, then that would be suggestive of a particular difficulty as in theory her reasoning skills are good in both areas. How she does in school, assuming she has had additional help and is still struggling (if she is), is more informative in suggesting a spld than any pattern of scores in an IQ test, really, now you know any difficulties are not clearly explained by her cognitive profile (eg, she doesn't have severe learning difficulties that might explain slow progress academically).

pencil19 Tue 22-Oct-13 22:14:19

Thank you so much for explaining in such depth. My DD does find numeracy more difficult and the school and myself recognise this. I am working at home on this, although only since the tests. My DD had never seen a NVR test before and I don't think they were given any familiarisation time, hopefully next year we will see an improvement in her numeracy and NVR.

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