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CDC gives out grants on behalf of the government as part of CFB pilot

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inappropriatelyemployed Tue 02-Jul-13 18:25:04

I really do despair at the collusion which seems to dominate the SEN system.

Last week, I posted CDC's guff about marmite or jam on toast as an analogy to the choice we don't have in terms of SEN provision.

Today, they are opening their second round of applications for funding for projects under the SEN reforms. I wonder how much they get paid by the Gov for this?

Meanwhile, we submitted a paper to the House of Commons on the reforms and our concerns that the corruption in the system will still remain. We couldn't even get a response until we started tweeting openly about the lack of one.

The response we have now received is outrageous and offensive. I hope to post it tomorrow.

babiki Tue 02-Jul-13 18:39:38

The response is from CDC or House of commons?

Have to look at tweeting again, I'm incapable of doing it from my phone sad

inappropriatelyemployed Tue 02-Jul-13 18:43:23

Sorry response is from Dept of Education.

babiki Tue 02-Jul-13 19:14:14

Oh OK...sorry it's not good sad

inappropriatelyemployed Tue 02-Jul-13 19:23:23

It is just horrendous that

(a) none of the mainstream education journos and newspaper education sections are remotely interested in this issue - shows how sidelined kids with SEN are perceived to be

(b) the major children's charities seem to be fighting over money from the Gov trough and aren't kicking up a storm about this in any major way. Save to suggest minor amendments

babiki Tue 02-Jul-13 19:42:58

Yes to both points. And money are being spent on useless stuff like PP and their 'training' in Essex meanwhile parents have to fight for basic provision..

ouryve Tue 02-Jul-13 19:54:31

This is our glorious Big Society at work. Look at all these wonderful things that can be achieved when we get charities involved. Let's just brush all the charities that have lost funding and folded, plus unglamorous LA and NHS provided services that have been squeezed until they pop under the carpet, shall we.

TOWIELA Tue 02-Jul-13 19:55:31

And that the same said LA wants to spend £13k-£16k per annum on a private taxi to 'their school' rather than give a child the correct education in an indie specialist school.

inappropriatelyemployed Tue 02-Jul-13 19:57:37

My thoughts exactly. If normal parents raise their voices we are singing off hymn sheet and so ignored.

StarlightMcKenzie Tue 02-Jul-13 22:40:43

They is the professionals. They know what's good for us innit!

It isn't good to give us any recognition or power lest we use it against them.

inappropriatelyemployed Tue 02-Jul-13 23:10:00

Aye, you sure be right there Ms Starlight. Them masters know what's best for us and our bairns!

bochead Wed 03-Jul-13 19:22:40

CDC have no legitimate mandate & hopefully will be a "victim of disruptive technology" in corporate speak now that social media etc gives parents a DIRECT means of public expression. I compare it to digital music versus vinyl wink.

If they can put in a claim for funding so can your campaign wink. At least the genuine voices of parents (& I suspect those older teens and children that are able to) are able to be heard via your site and others of a similar vein.

I'll just get back to pickin me cotton now sah wink

babiki Wed 03-Jul-13 20:24:26

Hey that's a good idea - IE you should apply!

inappropriatelyemployed Wed 03-Jul-13 20:31:30

The MN posse!!! I think you have to be set up already. I can't do it alone - any takers?

inappropriatelyemployed Wed 03-Jul-13 20:57:04

Mmm...., "each project must support the implementation at a local level of the government’s proposed SEN and disability reforms, as outlined in the Children and Families Bill."

No room for outsiders there then hmm


babiki Wed 03-Jul-13 21:18:53

Hmm... I would love to see examples of who gets it and what will they actually do..

babiki Wed 03-Jul-13 21:22:07

Have read it - bla bla bla, nothing else. Where did this culture of silly phrases and meaningless descriptive bullshit come from...

StarlightMcKenzie Wed 03-Jul-13 21:22:20


History of no monitoring or accountability surely means though, that you can agree whatever bollocks you want to get the funding, then do what the hell you like!?

Isn't that the usual path?

inappropriatelyemployed Wed 03-Jul-13 21:36:01

They won't respond to the tweet asking how much they get for administering this.

How can you input on the Bill and implement it at the same time?

What are their accountability and oversight mechanisms for that public money? You can't even FOIA them as they're not a public body (might have to check the exceptions to that).

What a disgrace.

StarlightMcKenzie Wed 03-Jul-13 21:43:44

If that is the rules we can do the same no?

Get the fundi g for spouting government bollocks then spend it on high tea meetings with parents/independent expert reports etc.

StarlightMcKenzie Wed 03-Jul-13 21:44:51

You can FIO the people wot give them the money!

bochead Wed 03-Jul-13 22:29:36

If they are a charity then the Charities commission has to make their accounts and list of trustees public etc. (Or they lose LOTS of tax benefits). There's a similar body for social enterprises.

Your project is all about empowering the individual etc, etc

Don't get more "local" than a Mum's living room ffs - target herts and top ten awful LEA's if you like. ) Neither can you get more local than that same Mum taking the info into her playground. A few Vista print postcards of your site addy would be a great start in some quarters compared to the current info parents receive. Or is that just me and I really should listen to the professionals and doff me cap proper like?

C'mon MNSNers - surely between us we've heard every industry buzz word going and can invent a few more hi-falutin' ones to give it a shot and support what IE is trying to do?

Google docs means we could write the funding proposal as a collaborative effort over a few nights (all you need is a free google log in, and I'd be happy to facilitate, as it's nothing like that twitter malarkey to use).

inappropriatelyemployed Wed 03-Jul-13 22:33:47

I'm game. I have just put a detailed funding app for something else with a charity so I am in the zone.

Promoting parental and CYP engagement? Need to look at criteria more specifically.

I'm out tomorrow but can look at on Friday. Email me Boc or anyone else that is interested.

bochead Thu 04-Jul-13 08:19:42

I'm up against a deadline for Friday but am more than happy to get stuck in one day early next week.

bochead Thu 04-Jul-13 08:25:38

I'm up against a deadline for Friday but am more than happy to get stuck in one day early next week.

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