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DS had MMR 8 days ago - today he fainted at school and had seizure! Coincidence or not????

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bigbluebus Thu 18-Apr-13 13:05:00

So after years of deliberating about MMR jab, DS (16 & HF ASD)had his last week, because of the current Measles outbreak. This morning I got a call from school to say he had passed out, been out cold for 2 - 3 mins and shook all over for 5-10 seconds.
He has never done anything like this before even when he was small and was ill.
He was fine when he left home this morning and seems fine now. He does not have a raised temperature.
I took him to the GP who said it was nothing to do with having the MMR jab, he had just fainted and had a 'hypoxic' seizure.
The question is, do I believe him or not? I'm not sure he even logged my concern on DSs records!

2old2beamum Thu 18-Apr-13 22:07:54

Agree with Ellen's last post DS is being investigated for NAS or it may be called syncope. DD no seizures has been fitted with a pacemaker for drop attacks as her heart rate dropped to under 30bpm.

What I really wanted to say is many years ago when working on nights a baby was admitted with seizures Mum just said "Good job it wasn't tomorrow else we would have blamed MMR"

Also there were incidences of Autism before MMR was introduced.
I stand to be corrected

bigbluebus Thu 18-Apr-13 22:42:04

2old DSs behaviour was already 'suspect' before he was due to have MMR jab at age of 2 (I think they used to do it slighter later years ago). It was because of this that we chose not to give him the MMR - I never believed that MMR caused ASD but wasn't sure about its possible effects on a group who were already pre-disposed to ASD. He was DX with ASD at 6 - so we know for definite it wasn't caused by the MMR jab - as he hadn't had one.

It is only because of the latest Measles outbreaks that we discussed it with him and he decided he would have it. He has fainted at least twice before that I can remember and one of those was on a very hot day when they were made to stand outside for a whole school photo - bless him he looks green in that picture. Both those 'episodes' were in Primary school and he is 16 now. He has never done the 'shaking' bit before which the GP confirmed was a seizure - although not epileptic. I just feel it is a bit too much of a co-incidence that it happened today when the nurse who gave the jab said "you might feel a bit off colour in a week to 10 days". It is well documented that toddlers can become slightly unwell at this point as a mild reaction to the vaccine, so that is why I wondered if the MMR was responsible for what happened today. He hasn't suddenly become more Autistic or regressed, he hasn't developed a bowel problem, he had a fit - something he's not done before - but thankfully he seems fine now.
It will take some convincing to take him for the booster now though.

2old2beamum Thu 18-Apr-13 23:01:38

bigblue sorry it was not a criticism I know very little about autism I find Autism perplexing and unlike you have not your knowledge it was just a few thoughts.
However I have seen measles doing its worst so as usual I sit on the fence.
Hope your DS is OK

saintlyjimjams Fri 19-Apr-13 07:11:59

Big blue - without saying too much just coincidentally spoken to a friend whose doctors do link her child's autism with MMR & the child had a seizure a week after the MMR (non epileptic, first ever). So really I would yellow card it. You can get 'hot batches' of vaccines which cause more problems than other batches but they need reports to identify those.

2old I don't think anyone would suggest that you can only get autism via the MMR. Autism isn't one condition anyway.

zzzzz Fri 19-Apr-13 08:50:10

I definitely think reporting it is important. Dds issues with generic topiramate are NOT unique, but only through the power of Internet could I have been so firm and ultimately saved her many seizures.

wonderingagain Fri 19-Apr-13 10:47:31

A GP cannot diagnose epilepsy only scans analysed by a neurologist can. E often appears in teenage years so it may be coincidece.

The Yellow card system is not used enough by the public and you should report it to the MHTA anyway regardless of the diagnosis.

wonderingagain Fri 19-Apr-13 10:47:55


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