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When a child goes to school in a taxi (transport provided by LEA) what is usual wrt escorts?

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electra Wed 07-Sep-11 13:17:57

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sickofsocalledexperts Wed 07-Sep-11 13:27:58

God this is such a difficult one. I see a lot of escorts when taking my boy into school, and all of the men seem really nice (one was even taken on by the school as a full time assistant teacher) - but I do totally understand your dilemma. Apparently the very reason why there are now so few male primary school teachers is because (a few) disgusting paedophile men have ruined things for everyone, so we are now suspicious of all men. That said, the latest horrible nursery paedophile ring to be featured in the media was actually run by two women. God, I don't know. I suppose the truth is that I wouldn't be comfortable either, as my child wouldn't be able to tell me what's going on. There is of course another person in the car, so she would not be alone. Can you go along for the first few drives, to get an idea of what kind of man he is?

Hulababy Wed 07-Sep-11 13:32:42

My mum works in a department that organises school transport and escorts. They have a mix of male and female escorts. Male escorts should not be treated any differently to female escorts. They are all CRB checked. They are just as safe as female escorts.

It is still a very rare occasion for a stranger to abuse a child. That is why on the odd ocassion it does happen it hits the headlines, because it is unusual. And if you consider the headlines from recent years then women have been found to be responsible for abuse in vunerable settings, not just men.

electra Wed 07-Sep-11 13:35:15

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electra Wed 07-Sep-11 13:38:18

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5inthebed Wed 07-Sep-11 13:41:50

All the people involved with your child with have a CRB check, regardless of their sex.

I can see why you are apprehensive.

When DS2 went to a SS he never had an escort, but a person from the taxi company was there to make sure that no harm became them.

electra Wed 07-Sep-11 13:45:48

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Hulababy Wed 07-Sep-11 13:48:47

"One issue I have is that if she has a melt down in the car, how will they handle it?"

Ask them. The same issue needs to be addressed regardless of whether the escort is male or female.

I am not sure re the employment of escorts, etc. But if they are working in this capacity I assume they have to have met the requirements of the LEA and their security checks also.

electra Wed 07-Sep-11 13:52:50

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growlybear Wed 07-Sep-11 13:58:29

I am always happier if there is a man and woman on the bus tbh.

electra Wed 07-Sep-11 13:59:30

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silverfrog Wed 07-Sep-11 14:15:26

I would be asking:

why a person from the taxi company and not an LA escort (how does this work with continuity of care? same extra person all the time, or one form a 'pool' at the taxi co?) - the LA are obviously going to be paying for the extra person, as they have agreed one, so what are they gaining form using a taxi person, not an escort? my gut feel would be training issues - something you are already concerned about.

are the taxi firm CRBd? Obv LA escorts are, but are all the people at the taxi firm (bearing in mind the potential 'pool' aspect to the accompnaying person), or are they relying on the fact that the usual driver is, and that will do?

has your dd been assessed as needing someone in the taxi with her, as well as the driver? if it is just her in the car, is sh going to end up with just the driver, who will then see ehr into school? (if that is all she needs, then fair play. if she needs someone sitting with her, how are the taxi firm organising this? surely they dont just have extra people sitting around not driving?)

I can see exactly why you are concenred, adn woudl feel the same way myself, I think. and tie myself up in the same knots. I don't think there si an easy solution, really. I hate hte quick jumping on the bandwagon knee-jerk reactions too (NOT saying this is what you are doing!) but then, when it comes to something like this, I would be wary too. partly due to previous experience (dsd had a taxi to school when aged 10ish. private arrangement - dh paid as his ex couldn't take her to school herself (another story entirely!) - and things happened which made us all uncomfortable. I shoudn't let this cloud my judgement, but I am only human. thankfully she coudl tell us about it all)

bigbluebus Wed 07-Sep-11 15:21:21

Always a difficult one this. Had a friend with a 17 year old daughter whose escort was changed from a woman to a man & the driver was also a man. My friend refused point blank to let her daughter go on the transport as she felt her daughter was too vulnerable. LA said they could not 'discriminate' against men. My friend had to take her daughter to school for some months but eventually the LA backed down and put a female escort back in place.

I think you need to be asking taxi firm what training their escort will have (all our LA escorts get specific training). The need enhanced CRB check and you need to know if there will be continuity and not just putting any person in the car with your DD.

I successfully fought a decision by our LA to put a male taxi driver with my DD when she was 5, but she didn't have an escort so I told LA that if they gave contract to different firm and I lost the lovely female taxi driver we had used for 2 years, then they would need to employ an escort too. Suddenly the new contract tender wasn't cheaper.

spinningaround Wed 07-Sep-11 20:42:00

My son has an taxi driver who has enhanced crb so he does the driving and escort job. I think it is probaly to do with county saving money because it has only been like this since summer.

r3dh3d Wed 07-Sep-11 21:10:36

Our escorts are always from the taxi/bus company. Afaik, county employs no escorts at all. And any we've had longer than a couple of weeks have been absolutely excellent.

Agree that as long as they are properly CRB checked there isn't much you can do. And tbh, you will know the time the child leaves school and the time the child arrives home, and how long that journey ought to take, plus it's unlikely the driver and escort are close friends so they'll be watching each other ... so tbh this is the sort of scenario I'd be least worried about.

borderslass Wed 07-Sep-11 21:16:33

Taxi escorts here are employed by council DS had a male escort for high school. I took DS for his last year as council fucked up taxi contract what I did notice was a lot of male escorts.

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