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"staments are only for children with severe learning disabilitys " lea bollocks

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hannahsmummsy Wed 03-Aug-11 18:14:55

the lawer for the lea said that . I know that this is rubbish , my dd has physical , emotional , social and visual difficultys , they have let her be bullied to the point where nobody at school talks to her , shes to scared to eat her lunch , shes small for her age and on amytriptaline so needs to eat properly she on school action plus , no iep , no termly reviews.I know shes talking rubbish , please can you mums in the know give me relavent quotes from sencop to spout and her when i write yet another letter to the totall arses tonight (they must be worried about this tribuneral because the lawer wouldent be running around like a headless chicken tring to sort out a meeting . so please mums clever quotes from sencop etc needed plllllllllllease !!! ps im definatley taking them to tribuneral .

hannahsmummsy Wed 03-Aug-11 18:26:57

ps the reson for the refusal to asses is that she is predicted d s for gcses so the fact shes tottally isolated from the rest of the school and constantly ill with stress dosent seem to matter

Piffle Wed 03-Aug-11 18:34:03

I got told they were only for children with spasticity and incontinence
My DD is legally blind
HEy ho F*ckers

colditz Wed 03-Aug-11 18:35:50

That's a lie. And absolute bald faced lie.

Ds1 has a statement, he has HFA, abnd ADHD. But no learning difficulties.

But I don't know how to help you!

hannahsmummsy Wed 03-Aug-11 18:55:06

dont worry Im going to ask for a 3 way case management phone call bettwen , me the lea and the tribunerall , to ask them to make it urgent as shes in year 11 , im also wriing to david cameron , i have spare stamps so why not . im not ever giving up im like a dog with a bone fuckwanker (and thats comming from a christian )

ArthurPewty Wed 03-Aug-11 19:08:25

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dolfrog Wed 03-Aug-11 19:21:05

So more haggling about wording, but what are you classifying as a learning difficulty.
Surely ADHD, and semantic pragmatic disorder are all learning disabilities which cause learning difficulties.

ArthurPewty Wed 03-Aug-11 19:24:18

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utah Wed 03-Aug-11 19:38:04

the lea I used to work for their way is statements only given for 20 hours support, special schools and units. They increased budgets to schools to reduce the amount of statements issued. If you do not fit the above criteria they will only issue through tribunal or the threat of tribunal. Even the cost of tribunals is cheaper than agreeing to the amount of statements they use to issue.

dolfrog Wed 03-Aug-11 19:40:12

We are all born with a set level of IQ, which is independent of our cognitive abilities or lack of them.

So the lack of ability to process any specific form of communication can be defined as a learning disability, so my disability auditory processing disorder is a cognitive disability related to my ability to process sound based information, including speech, which makes my disability, a learning disability in our society, and causes difficulties in learning in our societies education system.

My high IQ provides me with the ability to work around my auditory processing deficits on a good day, but not so well on a bad day if at all.

anonandlikeit Wed 03-Aug-11 19:49:20

Bollocks, total & utter.
Statutary assessment should be carried out where the child is unable to access the curriculum equal to her peers without support and where exisiting measures and adjustments put in place by the school have not been sufficient to support the child.

ALthough I think if the school have failed to apply & impliment IEP's etc then you will have problems even with a statement.

LEA's often ask schools to provide copies of IEP's monitoring & progress etc from the previous terms in order to see that progress is not being made even with support.
Progress should be measured accross the curriculum and that includes social & emotional development i'm sure I read somewhere that making blanket rulings eg "must have severe learning difficulty" actually contravenes (sp) the SEN COP.

Do you have a copy available?

ArthurPewty Wed 03-Aug-11 20:00:54

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ArthurPewty Wed 03-Aug-11 20:01:17

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Becaroooo Wed 03-Aug-11 20:18:56

That is total bollocks OP

You need to contact SOS!SEN and PP and get some support!

Also, is getting legal advice an option?

hannahsmummsy Wed 03-Aug-11 21:46:28

I have writtern to the lea laywer , the woman had the cheek to say that the school have been brilliant , so in my letter i turnened the argument on it head and pointed out that if the school has been sooo helpfull and brilliant to dd at school action plus and she still cant cope that she must need a statment urgently to provide this wonderfull caring school with all the help it needs to support dd , i listed all the things the school dosent do and suggesed that it must be lack of funding at not at all that they havent made an effort grin so i will take no hesitation in writing to the tribunerall l ask them to bring it forward lol !!!! so she shot herself in the foot with that comment !!!!. also i put it quite bluntly that what she said isnt true and printed off and highlighted a few usefull lines of the sencop , boy do i feel better . i know we have a mountian to climb , but i would do anything for my dd . xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

utah Wed 03-Aug-11 22:04:16

have you sent the letter, by pointing out the schools failing you leave the door open to the Lea to put forward that more should be done there without the need of a statement, ideally you want that your child needs more than school action plus can give hence the need of a statement.

hannahsmummsy Wed 03-Aug-11 22:12:43

Hannah is in year 11 so if I can get the school forced to do anything by the lea it would be quicker.like i said , the lea have quoted the school have been brilliant so hense the need for a statement if you get what i mean . UTAH I fully understand what you are saying , and if dd was younger I would play the long drawn out game and keep the schools falings from the lea, but time is not on her side so we have to negotiate quikly to get things in place for dd

hannahsmummsy Fri 05-Aug-11 14:12:37

wrote to mp today to alert him of lea policy and asked him to find out if they are acting legaly

StarlightMcKenzie Fri 05-Aug-11 14:58:06

'im also wriing to david cameron , i have spare stamps so why not'

Can I just say that this has made me absolutely ROFL. Why not indeed?

hannahsmummsy Sat 06-Aug-11 21:34:55

sent copy to lea lawer today copied it to 8 key school and lea staff. it said that"I will not be bullied ,mislead or presurised by any represantative of the LEA to change my mind and withdraw the appeal".

hannahsmummsy Sun 07-Aug-11 09:13:48

for the first time in dd secondary education i feel impowered , win or lose it can only result in more answers for dd and why this lovely caring child struggles so much with school life

Lougle Sun 07-Aug-11 11:02:08

You do need to be cautious. If the LA feel that the school have not dealt with your DD adequately, they can issue a note in leiu, saying that if the school did x, y, z, then she would be fine.

hannahsmummsy Sun 07-Aug-11 17:25:29

a note in leiu would be a list of her needs , the fact is the new senco wants to help , but they need advice , the lea are only doing stat work with ep , because of all this she is getting to see one etc .she leaves next year so any thing that can be done quickly is good xx i think the new senco is very commuited so may well met her needs if a note in lieu sets them out. thanks for all your support and advice

hannahsmummsy Mon 08-Aug-11 17:31:24

sudenly everyone at the lea are off sick or in a meeting all day , very convinent me thinks

singforsupper Mon 08-Aug-11 17:51:21

What your school meant is that one to one support is only for children with severe practical needs.

Any child can get a statement, but it may not offer any one to one support. The statement of SEN defines your child's needs in order for them to be able to access the curriculum and is a legal document to ensure that happens. It exists in the form that it does so that there is an opportunity for all agencies to describe the child's needs.

The idea is that with fully inclusive education children should not need an LSA to themselves (unless there is a physical or medical need because teachers should ensure that they can access the curriculum - yes, ALL children. We now have the Special Educational Needs Discrimination Act which legally ensures that disabled children are not discriminated against at school. If there is a problem with access (i.e. a child with developmental delay can't keep up with the levels), the school should differentiate in order to make sure that they can be taught alongside the others and access the curriculum.

It's all highly idealistic but the laws are there in real life. SENDA is there to ensure your child gets what he needs to be able to reach their potential at school. If your child doesn't, you can then sue the school/local authority for disability discrimination.

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