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WRAT-4 Implications

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Eastyone Thu 28-Nov-13 16:52:20

School have now sent what I think must be the standardised scores for the first test
age 12 12 2/12 wrat reading 102 comprehension 128 spelling 95 maths 97

and have now repeated the test giving just these results
age 14 3/12 wrat reading 104 comprehension 93 spelling 99 maths 92

The 2nd set are what I would have expected but they've given no explanation as to the superior result for comprehension

Also posted in sen education

Mummyoftheyear Fri 01-Nov-13 20:26:06

Yes in regards to STANDARDISED SCORES of 83 /84 and below.

Eastyone Fri 01-Nov-13 16:29:04

Just to carry on with this - some great ideas with regard to measuring her handwriting speed as this has never been done and is a major problem along with legibility
She has had some other test's done by the Ed Psy I wondered if these have a significance as these seem to be a much better fit for the problems she is having (age at test 13 exactly)
Verbal comp 19th %ile comp score 87 Confid 81-95
Perceptual reasoning 34th %ile score94 confi 87-102
Working mem 18th %ile score 86 confi 79-95
Process speed index 13th %ile score 83 confi 76-94
Full scale 14th %ile score 84 confi 80-89

Reading comp 45th %ile score 98 age 11 4/12
Pseudoword decoding 25th %ile score 90 age 11
Listening comp 47th %ile score 99 age 12

Are these grounds to have the WRAT-4 repeated as this 'superior score' is all they seem to quote

Thanks for your ongoing help

Mummyoftheyear Wed 23-Oct-13 17:47:49

Typing not tying
Of not if
Eurch - hate my own typos but this is likely to be littered with them.

Mummyoftheyear Wed 23-Oct-13 17:46:16

Did they measure her handwriting speed (highly relevant at this age with the expectations of the written work expected in literacy based subjects)?
Did they measure her reading of single words or in context? Was this reading score one of reading accuracy, fluency (speed) ... or what?

I'm not expecting you to know the answers. But they're questions that you might like to pose to whoever sent you this arbitrary information. I'm referring to it as arbitrary as it was delivered to you without any explanation.

Mummyoftheyear Wed 23-Oct-13 17:41:38

Standardised scores (SS) of 83 and below constitute a need for support and Access Arrangements. If you refer to this web link (convert percentiles to SS)
you'll see that her scores are comfortably above this. It's particularly interesting to see her sentence comprehension scores.
I can't re-read your message while tying but can't recall a score for working memory. Was this provided. I'll have another look. Reason I'm asking is that if not, you could query their assessment if passage vs sentence comprehension. Comprehension of a single (even complex) sentence is very different and, I'd say, less telling/ applicable to her ability in subjects where she's expected to read, process, retain and interpret a passage vs a sentence.

Eastyone Wed 23-Oct-13 17:22:19

No this is all they have sent - it looks as it's from a computer print out - do I need these too?

Mummyoftheyear Wed 23-Oct-13 17:15:08

Do you have the standardised scores, too?

Eastyone Wed 23-Oct-13 16:47:06


Having a few problems with my daughters school, she is/was on SAP for for problems with delayed comprehension skills. She is now Yr9 at secondary and as a parent I know she still struggles.
The school want to take her off the register and are saying this is because her grades are fine (they are for Maths & science, but she struggles with English and History - her levels in these and some other subjects are 5c/b) .
Also I think I've made a rod for my own back by providing additional home work help and often going over the work with her to make sure she understands it - I've told the school this.
Daughter doesn't have an IEP as the school don't do them and have said that the WRAT-4 test she completed in Yr7 shows she doesn't need any additional help - so I've now asked for these results as it wasn't adding up - this is what they've sent

Word reading raw score 49 per level average %ile rank 55
Sentence comprehension raw score 47 level superior %ile rank 97
spelling raw score 33 per level average %ile rank 37
Maths com raw score 35 per level average %ile rank 42

Do these look ok - I'm fine with them except the sentence comprehension which doesn't seem right (she would have been 13yrs 2 months when these were done)
Thanks for any help or suggestions - I've asked them to repeat the test and they insist it's correct


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