At my wits end re bedtimes.

[MyGastIsFlabbered]

DS1 (7) and DS2 (4) are still both wide awake. They just won't go to sleep. This is every night. I've tried everything I can think of but they just won't settle. I've tried no screens, I've tried screens, if I turn the lights out they turn them on again. If they get up I just take them back to bed, they get up again and so it continues. Short of strapping them into bed and taping their eyes shut I just don't know what to do. They must be so bloody tired, there's no way they're getting enough sleep.

[FATEdestiny]

Do they share a room? Maybe divide and conquer is the answer. Could one of them camp out in your room for a week or so while you sort this out?