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11 week old - last nap and bedtime

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ToffeeForEveryone Thu 26-May-16 20:58:05

Looking for some advice please about waking a sleeping baby!

DS1 is 11 weeks old, we don't have a proper routine as such yet, i.e. at specific times, but have a pattern for night time sleep which is usually: sleep about 4-5 hours from being put down at bedtime, feed, sleep for 2-3 hours, feed, sleep for 2-3 hours and wake - so for example bed at 8.00, feed at 1, feed at 4, up at 6.30.

During the day is a lot more variable depending on where we are, but generally is a short nap (45m - 1hr 15), then a longer morning nap which can be 2-3 hours; a short afternoon nap then a long afternoon nap, again around 2-3 hours. He is only awake for about 1.5 hours at a time.

The last nap of the day usually starts around 4.00 - 4.30, but the last couple of days he has refused despite being obviously very tired. He's finally gone to sleep around 6.00, and we've had to wake him up for a sensible bedtime, as I don't want him to think he is in his night time sleep. We woke him up around 7.30 yesterday and he seemed to be in a really deep sleep, was groggy and just wanted to go back to bed - we basically just woke him up, rushed through bottle and bath and put him back.

Tonight we woke him at 7.15, he was awake but sleepy, fed him and took him upstairs but had to bring him down for a nappy change - he is now wiiiide awake but getting increasingly overtired.

If this happens again tomorrow, do you think I should be letting him sleep his whole nap? Bedtime could end up 9-10, which would be okay for us but seems a bit late for a baby! And I am worried it would screw up his night time sleep routine.

Or should I just bite the bullet and put him down for the night at 6 (before DH gets home so not ideal)?

Tumtitum Thu 26-May-16 21:03:50

I'm by no means an expert on sleep but my DD is 15 weeks and used to have quite a late bedtime but then started to get really overtired if we didn't start putting her down between 6&7.30. I would say give it a go as it suits you and then bring it earlier if t doesn't seem to suit baby!!
Ps three hour naps sound like a dream!! My DD won't sleep longer than 30 mins so any secrets do share ;)

sleepyhippo Thu 26-May-16 21:35:45

Have a 10 week old and we have exactly the same issue! I never know whether to wake him and try and keep to 'usual' bedtime or whether to leave him- they do say you should never wake a sleeping baby! But I worry he's in his 'long' sleep and by the time I go to bed I'll only get like an hour before he's awake and then he'll wake sooner after that!

We don't have a routine either really (3 hour naps sound lush btw) but some days if I'm out and about I'll try and time when we come home for say 6 so that he should be asleep by half 7ish. I wake him to feed him if nap times haven't worked out well that day. Not sure if that's wrong or right but I panic every single evening that im gonna get a shit nights sleep! My baby is usually very kind to me though, does pretty much the same as yours- I think I need to give him the benefit of the doubt sometimes!

Congratulations on babe by the way smile

Coconut0il Thu 26-May-16 21:53:04

In the early weeks DS2 would stay downstairs sleeping on my lap of an evening. We went up to bed about 10pm. It wasn't till he was about 4 months he started having an earlier bedtime.
I've always gone with never wake a sleeping baby so I would probably just let him sleep when he wants. I don't think the actual time is as important as having the bedtime routine.

ToffeeForEveryone Fri 27-May-16 22:17:19

Thanks everyone.

Had to wake him today again confused. Wasn't a normal day for him nap wise, we were out and about and just about every nap was interrupted by transfer from car seat to pram or vice versa, poor mite, so he was probably quite tired. We were home by about 4 and he KOed at 5 after feeding. He was still sleeping at 8 so woke him up as didn't want him waking from his "nap" in the dark! He was a bit groggy to start with but he was fine after about 15 minutes and it was pretty much a normal waking cycle.

It made for a later bedtime but it worked out well for us (particularly DH who has the overnight shift tonight, and got to watch the football smile ) I think he had started to go into a proper deep sleep though, so will wait and see what tonight brings!

No secrets or tricks to the long naps, just thanking my lucky stars! I'm fully expecting it to all go tits up when he hits the 4 month regression, so enjoying it now whilst it lasts smile

He refused to be put down at all in the day for the first 6 weeks, like even for 10 minutes in his bouncy chair, so the difference in just over a month has been quite dramatic! I'd been struggling to get him to nap anywhere but my arms downstairs, in the bouncer or his bassinet or Sleepyhead (where he sleeps at night), but it was hit and miss and always a struggle.

About 3 weeks ago I was knackered so took him up to bed hoping that I could sleep if he did, put him down in his crib and he fell asleep pretty much instantly. I'd been trying to keep "daytime" and "night time" separate by having him nap in the sitting room, but actually it seemed like he just wanted his own bed to go to sleep, which is quite obvious when I think about it!

We have a Snuzpod beside our bed with the Sleepyhead inside it, I keep the room as dark as possible for naps and lie down beside him whilst he falls asleep. He has a dummy and pretty much self settles, I just have to keep the dummy in and occasionally have my hand on his chest if he's startling a lot. Some naps he'll be very unsettled though (lots of problems with his digestion) and I pretty much have to stay there to maintain his sleep, i.e. replace dummy when he squirms and knocks it out his mouth.

LadyStarkOfWinterfell Fri 27-May-16 22:29:44

What on earth are you waking your tiny baby for? confused just let him nap when he needs to. Blimey, you're making this far more complicated than it needs to be!

Timetogrowup2016 Sat 28-May-16 03:33:32

I agree don't wake a baby. You can't force a routine on a 11 week old. It will come in time.
Let him sleep when his sleeping. It's like us being woken up in deep sleep. It's not very nice is it ?

ToffeeForEveryone Sat 28-May-16 07:10:28

I'm definitely not trying to "force a routine on a 11 week old"! I was asking for advice because his pattern of sleeping had changed, he was having trouble falling asleep and becoming distressed / overtired, and I'm worried about undoing the distinction between day and night that he has developed naturally.

Anyway, it doesn't seem to have done him any harm, he's full of smiles and energy this morning. Asleep by 9.15, fed at 2.30, up for the day at 6 and currently chatting away and smashing at toys on his bouncy chair smile

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