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nightandthelight Tue 24-May-16 07:46:45

DS will be 16 weeks on Thursday and for the last week his sleep has gone to pot, for example last night he slept fine till midnight but then was up every hour.

For a few weeks prior to this he had managed to wake only once or twice a night and it felt as though the worst was over but it's now worse than when he was a newborn.

Is there anything I can do to improve his sleep? He seems to be waking between sleep cycles and can't resettle himself. He has also developed an aversion to sleeping on his back. I have managed to sort out a side position in which if he rolls he goes onto his back rather than his front but he will then wake as soon as that happens.

His daytime naps are an issue too in that he will only nap in a moving pram, a moving car or in my arms (and even then only after a bit of a cry). I could live with that though if he was OK at night.

TangerineTrees Tue 24-May-16 07:52:37

No real advice (sorry), just sympathy! Absolutely exactly the same with our DS, timings & all. He's 19+3 now and we're - touch wood - just coming out the other side of it. Nothing we did helped, so we focused on managing the situation rather than trying to fix it. flowers

nightandthelight Tue 24-May-16 10:17:19

Thanks Tangerine, good to know your LO is coming out of it and it will resolve on its own smile

Thataintnoetchasketch Tue 24-May-16 12:49:05

Just wanted to say we've been the same & getting DS to stay sleeping has been a battle. At 15 weeks he'd sleep for 3 hours max then be up every hour or more overnight.

We co-slept when it was particularly bad but other than that we've just had to ride it out. I honestly thought some days I was losing it with the sleep deprivation though.

Now at 20 weeks we're finally seeing progress. He's been up just twice a night to feed over a 12 hour period for about a week & last night it was only once.

MYA2016 Tue 24-May-16 14:17:41

This started for me when DS was 13 weeks. Used to sleep 10 hours straight then suddenly started waking every 3-4 hours. Unfortunately over the weeks he's got worse not better, going down to 2-3 hours, then last week 1-2 hours. At the weekend he started waking every 45 mins (he's now 18 weeks) and last night I did something I honestly didn't think I'd do till he was 6 months and I sent dh out at 8pm to buy formula.
I just couldn't face another night like it.
Anyway had 7oz and went to sleep, then woke up every 2 hourly but I only fed him 4 hourly and dh rocked back to sleep the other times
I refuse to believe he's hungry as he will easily go 3-4 hours in the day.
I'll see how things go now for the next few nights. In an ideal world I'll combination feed now and he'll get used to the fact he can't eat every single time he stirs.
its really really shit isn't It. Sleep deprivation is absolute torture.
also my son is the exact same with naps... arms carseat or pushchair. If I dare put him in his crib or anywhere for that matter in the day he'll just wake up and not resettle.
hope things get better for you soon

Nousername2015 Tue 24-May-16 15:44:51

No advice, just another one going through it! DS is 19 weeks today and has been unsettled for 3 weeks now, I'm running on fumes! What is helping me is knowing that I can't change it, I just have to ride it out. We are all in the same room until first wake up (usually 12 but he's throwing in a 10pm wake up now!) then dh sleeps in spare room until 5 then he takes over so I can get 90 mins of unbroken sleep. My boobs used to be very full when I woke in the mornings, now they are empty as the only thing managing to get ds back to sleep is feeding.

nightandthelight Tue 24-May-16 16:04:56

Gutted that you are all struggling too but also relieved that it is normal. From what you are all saying I need to survive the next 3-4 weeks and then hopefully things will improve smile

DH and I have reverted to the system we had when he was a newborn so I go to sleep early in the spare room and he is with DS and at midnight we swap. Only thing keeping me on my feet!

SparklySandals Wed 25-May-16 20:57:39

This is me too. DS is 16 weeks and everything has gone to hell. He is napping ok in the daytime but is shattered and screaming/not sleeping from around 5pm. After an epic 3 hour battle to get him to sleep, he wakes every few hours. Throw in the warmer, lighter nights and bright mornings, the new-found constant clingy-ness, and the fact that my husband seems to be working/socialising ALL the fucking time at the moment and I am one fed-up mother. sad I thought things were supposed to get easier but I found the newborn days a million times better than this!

nightandthelight Thu 26-May-16 07:07:32

Hugs sparkly sad We have the clinginess too, DS used to love his playmat but now won't go down on it. I can get about 10 minutes out of the jumperoo.

We actually had a good night last night, one feed at 12:20 and a bit of stirring twice but he went straight back down. Still waking horribly early but am hoping this is a permanent improvement and not a one off!

The nights he was waking every hour and was up for the day around 5 were far worse than the newborn days where he would sleep two hours in a row and would stay in bed all day with no need to be entertained!

SparklySandals Thu 26-May-16 16:35:43

Thanks night I'm glad you had a better night last night. We did too, eventually, and I just went to sleep and let DH do the dream feed. I think the fact I was in floods of tears when he got home gave him a fright because he also phoned in between meetings to see how we were getting on today! I have borrowed some slings (one hip sling and one front carrier) and so far today they seem to be helping with the clingyness. Not a cure-all but better than the constant carrying. I am also finding the playmat and jumperoo not to be of interest at the moment. They used to be my lifesaver!

I hope last night was a sign of good things to come for you! flowers

Nousername2015 Fri 27-May-16 07:27:33

Well done on the better nights, I think we had our worst yet. Even co sleeping didn't help! Of course he's snoozing now as he makes up for his lack of sleep in the day. Same here with the playmat and jumperoo, he cries if he's anywhere near the jumperoo now and I can't even dash to the loo leaving him on his playmat without tears. I agree that this is way worse than having a newborn!

nightandthelight Fri 27-May-16 07:47:27

Sorry to hear that nouser sad We had a bad night again including being awake from 4:10! Today I am surviving on caffeine and sugar grin

The inability to put them down is a nightmare, cannot wait for this phase to pass.

s098 Fri 27-May-16 12:24:48

Anyone know how long the 4 month sleep regression is meant to last??Dd is 19weeks tomorrow and has been sleeing badly for about the last 6 weeks.
She also isn't that keen on sleeping on her back like your ds OP, but can't seem to stay on her side for long

nightandthelight Fri 27-May-16 12:37:25

I believe it is meant to pass by 20 weeks s098 so hopefully you are almost there!

nightandthelight Fri 27-May-16 12:37:48

Can you wedge dd onto her side with towels?

s098 Fri 27-May-16 14:47:27

I really hope so!
I did think about somehow making a wedge but think i read somewhere not to but then if it helps everyone sleep better i might have to try it. She does sleep on a sensor pad so if she had any problems breathing it would wake me up.
Have you tried making a wedge for your ds?

nightandthelight Fri 27-May-16 15:06:21

Yeah we use the wedge, a tightly rolled towel at the lower end of his body so it doesn't get close to his face. We also have the sensor pad smile It was that or no-one sleeping at all!

Nousername2015 Fri 27-May-16 17:55:49

I really hope the 20 week thing is true, ds is 19+3. I'm not holding out too much hope though! Fingers crossed we all magically get better nights tonight.

crazedmummy2016 Fri 27-May-16 18:44:48

This all sounds very similar to my little boy who is now 21 weeks, he sleeps really well the first half of the night up until the night feed and then after that he wakes approx every 45 mins until morning which is slowly killing me sad he is exclusively breastfed, and in a bedside co-sleeper. Any tips greatly appreciated before I lose my mind smile x

nightandthelight Fri 27-May-16 18:58:45

Oh lawks crazed, I'm hoping it would be over by 21 weeks! No tips sadly other than the sleeping on side. It is soul destroying sad You must be about to come out the other side though at 21 weeks, hang in there!

ShinySarah Fri 27-May-16 20:07:14

Does it make a difference if they're prem do we think...my lo has just turned 20 weeks (she was 3 weeks prem and 5 lb) and it's just started...confused

nightandthelight Fri 27-May-16 20:21:35

I believe these things work by due date and not actual age Shiny so yes that makes sense for your DD. It's such a nightmare sad I hate that DS won't sleep on his back because I am so worried about SIDS.

1Potato2 Fri 27-May-16 22:15:09

Please can I join in the misery? Ds is 18 weeks tomorrow. Since 5 weeks he was a one feed a night boy. Slept through on 2 occasions. Now from 17 weeks he's up for 2 feeds (often singing and wide awake), shuffles about during the night constantly threatening to wake up, eventually awakes for the day early and is clingy and whingy during the day. It sucks.

I have an older dc so know that it ends...eventually. Sigh. We'll get there.

s098 Sat 28-May-16 07:31:43

I think it makes it worse that they start to sleep ok so you think you've got tge whole sleep part almost sorted then this happens!
Using a small towel as a wedge really helped last night, dd went pretty much straight back to sleep every time i put her back in her cot. Still woke up quite a bit as i did it so that she could roll onto her back if she needed to but was more settled.
Does your ds take a dummy nightandthelight?

nightandthelight Mon 30-May-16 16:59:38

How is everyone doing? Sleep is improving here although still dependent on the side sleeping. However teething has been thrown into the mix sad

DS does take a dummy s098 but it's not much help at night as the moment it falls out he wakes up.

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