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LuckyOwl28 Tue 10-Sep-13 16:35:52

I came on here to have a rant/cry/moan/wallow in despair as after trying EV-RY-THING with my 5 month old to sleep through it appears I am not alone.

In fact, from what I can make out through reading with one eye just about open, there are some of you who seem to have it even worse. How THE ACTUAL HELL do some of you do this with two or more kids??

My baby recently teased me with a joyous week of sleeping 8,10 and finally 12 hours, only to go back to waking every 2-4 hours again for the last four weeks. I couldn't even enjoy those nights as constantly expected her to wake up. I swear she knows what she's doing.

The only good thing to come out of this hell is a good Facebook clear out, getting rid of all those OBNOXIOUS, UNBEARABLE LIARS who write daily statuses about how their 6 week old has slept through for 14 fucking hours bla bla bla. Well good for you, really. angry

And if one more 'friend' or family member tries to be 'helpful' with their little suggestions that I've more than likely tried and tried and TRIED I cannot be held responsible for my actions. That includes you, Great Nanna. You may be 87 but i'm a sleep deprived woman on the edge.

Oh hang on, what's that I hear... the little angel herself waking after a 7 minute nap. It's a good job she's practically perfect in every other way....

Littlebagoflaughter Wed 02-Oct-13 09:20:45

Your post and all the other comments really made me laugh lucky, it's such a relief to know other people feel the same! Ds is also 5mths, was a champion sleeper until 17wks with just one night feed, since then it has all gone to hell! Mumsnet is keeping me sane as I am so sick of all these books with contradictory advice, every one I've read leaves me thinking 'has this person ever spent time with a baby, let alone had one themselves?!'

Also I thought it was an unwritten but universally acknowledged rule that if your baby is sleeping well you DO NOT ask other mothers how their baby is sleeping unless they are a friend and you are genuinely concerned about them. I had two mothers with slightly older babies who I'd only just met asking if ds was sleeping though and then telling me how theirs were! Well I'm sorry but I could not care less how your baby is sleeping! Only those mothers who will commiserate with me over their equally disturbed nights are allowed to broach the subject. I'm totally with you frenchsticker, why when people see a beautiful baby can they think of nothing to say but ask about sleep? And ask 'is he good?' Yes he's good, he is the best thing ever and I love him with all my heart but I don't think that's what you're getting at is it....

Sweetsandchocolate Tue 01-Oct-13 03:03:30


Sweetsandchocolate Tue 01-Oct-13 02:58:53

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Sweetsandchocolate Tue 01-Oct-13 02:49:20

I'm trying to link to YouTube but I can't. Probably cos it's 02.49 and I'm sooooo f@##king tired...

Look up Samual L Jackson's reading of the book "Go the f#@k to sleep"

Pure genius grin

LuckyOwl28 Mon 30-Sep-13 19:55:33

I avoided this page as felt guilty after she slept for 11 hours one night, but it appears that was a cold/croup brewing so we've been up all night with cough, sick episodes etc since. I've been sleeping on a fold out bed next to her cot last few nights too,so even when she's sleeping I'm not!
Glad you're making progress! Hopefully my time will come soon xx

EmmaLL25 Mon 30-Sep-13 19:15:55

I've just taken side off cot and have it up against bed like side sleeper. Has made life so much easier.

On odd occasion through night he'll now go back to sleep without boob - I'm counting that as progress!

I'm hoping weaning ( starting this weekend) is going to help. The cot change has really helped my sanity and made us a more rested, happier house.

LuckyOwl28 Mon 30-Sep-13 17:24:24

Hi ladies are you all still hanging in there?

PlotTwist Tue 17-Sep-13 22:11:12

Neither of my youngest reliably slept through until they were in reception at school. Six fucking years of broken sleep. What did I do? I had a nervous breakdown, that's what I did.

Frenchsticker Tue 17-Sep-13 21:56:48

If I hear the question, "So, is she sleeping through yet?" one more time delivered in a tone of patronising, pitying smuggery then I will commit murder.

The other day a complete stranger asked me this. I replied that DD (7 months old) wakes up twice a night for feeds. To which she looked appalled and said: "Oh... so you haven't trained her then?" When in fact the twice a night thing is the RESULT of sleep training! She used to wake up every frigging two hours - by comparison only having to get up twice a night feels like a luxury spa break...

Clarella Tue 17-Sep-13 20:22:09

Emma and others doubting 'bad sleep habits' have a really good read of all of this website :

Helen Ball (prof I think? or Dr) researches baby sleep at Durham uni and this site explains her findings to parents and carers. I find it exceptionally encouraging! not least that a lot of 'data' and current books are based on info from formula fed babies.

interwebmum Tue 17-Sep-13 19:28:32

I'm another who owes her sanity to the sleep section of MN. Hurray for for shared misery! wine

EmmaLL25 Wed 11-Sep-13 16:43:02

It does help to know you're not alone.

We went away a month ago and since then sleep knackered ( although before that we got 3 or 4 hrs, maybe another 2 then every hour). Although it coincided with 4 month sleep regression. So now two hours then awake every hour.

We feed to sleep at night and through night. I usually have a couple goes at getting him back in cot then give up and bring him in bed. Which is lovely BUT wracked with guilt that I'm not getting this right, setting bad habits.

Thing is I feel better and wee man wakes up happy.

Tried to work on it by day by getting him to sleep in bouncy chair. Worked for a few days then he was teething, then he was constipated. Aaaaargh!

So now he screams if he even thinks I'm trying to get him to sleep in his chair. He will for Dad though, but a weekend isn't enough to set new habits.

So we're back to feeding to sleep for naps or walks in pram/ sling. He's happy and rested so I'd quite like the world to disappear and leave us to it.

Hats off to you ladies with more than one!

happydaze77 Wed 11-Sep-13 14:14:28

Loving this thread!
DH doesn't seem to appreciate how cathartic a good swear/shout/door slam/chocolate overdose/rant on mumsnet can be.
Oh, and take any competitive parenting with a pinch of salt - my friend makes out that her baby is nothing short of angelic, yet when dh was talking to her dh the other day he reported that she was waking up most nights.
And, while I'm at it - why are easy babies referred to as GOOD, yet more challenging (--bloody difficult--) babies are labelled NAUGHTY?!

EMS23 Wed 11-Sep-13 13:14:33

Ha ha, I make up silly songs too!! Often quite sweary!

"I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you" to the football terrace chant tune is a current favourite.
Obviously only in my head, not out loud. Honest guvwink

LuckyOwl28 Wed 11-Sep-13 12:55:39

Jesus Christ

Seriously considering getting tubes tied.

The other half was scared to death in bed last night as he heard me manically singing along with her cot mobile with a little song I composed after getting up for the third time...

(to the tune of 'Twinkle Twinkle Little Star)

"Ingy Pingy Pongy Poo
I don't know what else to do
Is it me or is it you
I ain't got a fucking clue
Ingy Pingy Pongy Poo
I don't know what else to do"

Not quite appropriate for CBeebies but quite catchy I think. Oh, and no of course it didn't help.

moomoomummy Tue 10-Sep-13 22:18:21

EMS I had two non sleepers and needed to have a camera stuck up by backside. I can remember three hours of blissful time on my own- apart from the doctor and nurse obviously!! Makes me remember how desperate I was . I feel your pain, hope it gets better soon

EMS23 Tue 10-Sep-13 22:07:35

Thanks Maldive! Unfortunately I was rocking DD2 back to sleep after her first wake up of the night!
DH is just back after a week away working so I'm feeling more cheerful than I otherwise might!

I had random stomach pains the other day which Dr Google suggested could be my gallbladder. I've got private medical insurance and got very excited about the prospect of a few days in a hotel like hospital!! Never mind the major surgery I'd be enduring!

peachactiviaminge Tue 10-Sep-13 21:59:45

We have two counting teeth and going by the maiming two more on the way and and a fucking hormonal ten year old who obviously is practising for an EastEnders role I swear there are most days I could happily run screaming naked down the road so they'd lock me up in a nice quiet padded room and I could have a lovely peaceful nap for six years months.

MissMarplesBloomers Tue 10-Sep-13 21:39:35

Swear away ladies, if it stops you throwing the little darling(s) out of the window. grin

Remember the mantra
<usually while rocking maniacally or pacing the floor A-FUCKING-GAIN>

"It's only a phase , It's only a phase"

You can see why sleep deprivation was/is a successful form of torture in wartime can't you?

I'd have signed my bloody life away, confessed to anything, to get a few hours kip when mine were babes!

maldivemoment Tue 10-Sep-13 21:31:16

Never mind hats off to me. Hats off to EMS23 - f*cking hell! (just joining in with all the swearing 'cos it feels kinda nice!)

In the nicest possible way EMS I hope you're sleeping and can't read this. Lots of momma love comin your way...

EMS23 Tue 10-Sep-13 20:51:34

DD2 11.5 months old, slept through once. As in, on one single occasion.
Other than that, wakes every 2-3 hours all night, takes an hour or more to get back to sleep.
Have a 9 year old and a 2.10 yr old, who also wakes in the night most nights.
Working full time since March and no family support nearby. Just about dead on my feet now!!

DD1 didn't sleep through till 6 months and I remember feeling grossly hard done by. Ha de fucking ha.

LuckyOwl28 Tue 10-Sep-13 20:50:38

I'm enjoying how this post has become a online padded room for prolific use of CAPITALS and the F word

Just what I needed ;)

LuckyOwl28 Tue 10-Sep-13 20:46:32


Hats off to you, I just don't know how you do it!

I'm also breastfeeding back to sleep for 30-40 mins, originally thinking she was going through a growth spurt but has gone on for four weeks now...

But I don't have another kid to get up with.

I repeat, hats of to you!!

Clarella Tue 10-Sep-13 20:41:04

oh yeah FUCKING TEETH here too now.

Clarella Tue 10-Sep-13 20:40:15

yup. boob to sleep survival. repeat repeat repeat. effing hourly on bad nights, 2 or 3 hours at best. 9 months sleep regression (carried over from the 4 month one, which lasted 5 months.)

co sleeping (but I love it!)

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