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brightonbythesea Tue 30-Jul-13 07:34:32

i realise this is a small problem compared to many other sleep issues but my dd has started waking no later than 5.30. she will not go back to sleep and as a result is still tires amd grouchy all morning until a morning nap. she goes to bed between 6.30-7 as she cant stay up any later. on a typical day she takes two 1.5 hr naps a day 9-10.30 and 1.30-3. I have tried:

shorter naps
longer naps
earlier bedtime
later bedtime
leaving her in her cot whining until 6.20 whih I think is acceptable and her old wake up time.

i wouldnt mind but she is very grouchy in the morning and too tired for breakfast. it is an effort to keep her up until 9. Thoughts gratefully received

brightonbythesea Thu 01-Aug-13 18:42:10

also, what time are you ladies putting your little ones down for the night? It doesn't seem to matter what time DD naps till in the afternoon, she is wacked by 6, so I bath then, feed at 6.15 then put her in her cot 6.30 where she falls asleep no later than 6.45. Perhaps this is too early but I cannot, whatever I do, keep her up. It could be why she's up so early, but later bedtimes have not worked for me in the past.

minipie Thu 01-Aug-13 19:45:51

7pm bedtime here. i find that a later bedtime, or shorter naps in the day, occasionally leads to a later wake up (or going back to sleep more readily) but often not... and if not then dd just gets grumpy/overtired.

agree with you about going in, dd gets very upset if I go in at 5.30/6 but don't get her up... she wails and wails as I leave the room as if she's being abandoned to wolves. she's much less upset if I just leave her (though she still calls for us, so not exactly quiet!)

Nancy54 Fri 02-Aug-13 06:13:28

Mine tend to be in bed by 730. Tbh I don't think what time you put them down makes that much difference as I have tred earlier and later nd its the same!

You're very lucky that you don't have to go in! Mine scream blue murder as soon as they wake! I have to scoot in v quickly so they don't wake the other!

Nancy54 Fri 02-Aug-13 06:22:34

Sat here at the mo with dtb who's been up since 530 and yawning away. He woke his sister but dp managed to get her back to sleep and its 720 here! (In France!)

Nancy54 Fri 02-Aug-13 06:43:56

Still asleep.....they'll never nap at the same time this morning now....

brightonbythesea Fri 02-Aug-13 08:23:01

ah nancy that is annoying that they are doing different things. My little one made it to 6am this morning by some kind of miracle - she actually went to sleep at 6.20 last night as she was so tired!

We left her till 20 past, and then just as I was about to go to her she went quiet - I thought she'd gone back to sleep but was making a racket again by 6.30. Aah well small progress. I actually thought she's be up at 5 as she'd gone to bed so early!

minipie Fri 02-Aug-13 10:09:32


we had 6.45am this morning! not sure why, I didn't do anything differently yesterday.... possibly the heat tired her out.

hope it continues bet it won't though

Nancy54 Fri 02-Aug-13 12:28:35

Yay that's great mini! Dtg slept til 8!!!! This has however resulted in a totally f**ked up day because she just refused to go down for nap, finally went down at 1145 but only slept for 30 mins and is grouchy. Dtb only had 45 mins. They usually have a More or less synchronized 11/2 hr nap in the morning! What has happened??? I got the worst of both worlds because had to get up at 530 with dtb but cos of dtg's lie, no napping together......the joy of twins!

brightonbythesea Sun 04-Aug-13 18:56:45

excited for your lie ins ladies! We've done a few days of getting to the grand old time of 6am!

minipie Sun 04-Aug-13 19:32:48

humph, had 5am this morning. I know why it is - she's overtired, hadn't napped enough Friday and Saturday, and wouldn't nap much today either sad

minipie Sun 04-Aug-13 20:07:37

glad you've had 6ams Brighton - that's my aim-for time!

brightonbythesea Mon 05-Aug-13 07:57:54

minipie 5am sucks, poor you. By some kind of miracle my DD woke at 7.02 this morning!!!! Definitely a fluke, but I'll take anything...
I didn't do anything differently - in fact, we have a stick up black out curtain that we put behind her curtains in the evenings, and I was so tired from a busy weekend that we forgot to put it up. So, the light shone in, the noisy road we lived on was it's usual monday morning self, she went to bed really early as she was so tired (like 6.15) and she sleeps late?!! I give up trying to solve this, it is a mystery. Did you get a bit later this morning minipie?

minipie Mon 05-Aug-13 08:17:49

yes - 5.30 but then put on the white noise and dd went back to sleep till 6.45 hooray. 7.02 wow, I don't think we've ever had past 7am. hope it lasts!

brightonbythesea Mon 05-Aug-13 09:10:34

I hope it continues, but I have doubt...
That's great that she goes back off with the white noise - I don't think my one would do that. Do you have a machine or use a noise off your phone?

minipie Mon 05-Aug-13 09:55:04

she doesn't always but I think it helps... especially if she seems genuinely tired rather than bouncy and wide awake. I have a Sleep Sheep (was a gift) which makes the noise but I actually think that a phone app or something might be better, as the sheep cuts off after 40 mins. Sound of waves seems to work best for dd and it has to be really loud.

well at least you got one lie in! or did you wake up anyway? I find that happens to me if dd sleeps unexpectedly long, gah.

brightonbythesea Mon 05-Aug-13 10:08:43

I stirred about 5.30 and wondered where the dulcit tones of my daughter were...! But I actually went back to sleep until she woke up. Feels good! She was really tired by 9 (lightweight) but stayed up till just after 9.30 for her nap. I find usually I'm like you - once she's made a noise I'm up anyway.

Yes perhaps this one lie-in will give me the energy I need for the rest of the week :-)

brightonbythesea Wed 07-Aug-13 07:32:44

well, in the last 3 days I've had 2x 7am and 1x 5.40. Obviously largely pleased with this, as I've heard her stir and go back to sleep on the later wake up days.

Nothing different on any day, similar naps, same bedtime, fairly busy days. I wish I knew what it was, so I could get the 7ish wake time consistent...

minipie Wed 07-Aug-13 19:17:56

ooh, a repeated 7am, amazing! let me know if you crack the secret!

yesterday we had 6am and no going back to sleep, today we had 5.30 wake but she went back to sleep within a couple of minutes and without any white noise assistance, woke at 6.40. A bit short on nap time today so let's see if she wakes earlier or later tomorrow...

we also had a couple of wakes in the middle of the night last night [yawn] hope it's not the start of the dreaded 9 month regression!

backinaminute Thu 08-Aug-13 06:50:05

Not just us then - it's painful. I've just come on here to see if anyone has any solutions for exactly the same thing.

Ds2 (8mo) shares a room with his brother and is fine from 7pm till about 5am. I then have to whip him out as he really cries and won't settle back down. I've always fed back to sleep in our bed but this has lost it's magic touch.

We co-slept as a newborn but its not quite the same with a wriggly, scratching 8mo. Not so much sleepy snuggles but a battle in semi-darkness.

Maybe it's a phase and he will grow out of it........ His brother has a gro-clock which is brill and he stays in bed till 7. We bought it when he went from waking at half 7 to 6 - and we thought that was problematic! (Oh how lucky we were).

It is now 6.49 and he is already knackered - marvellous grin

brightonbythesea Thu 08-Aug-13 07:29:47

5 minutes to 7 this morning. I can't quite believe it, and I'm sure it is will not last. I have not changed naps (they vary in length but fall about the same time 9 and 1.30) and I am putting her in bed early, i.e. in her cot no later than 6.30 sometimes as early as 6.20 to avoid overtiredness which happens to her easily, especially if naps have been a bit ropey.

Perhaps the few days of just not responding to her last week did the trick, no idea but I'm sure I will be back in the next day or two discussing the repeat of 5.30!

minipie Thu 08-Aug-13 07:54:10

wow! ok you are the new guru grin how long does your dd nap for roughly?

brightonbythesea Thu 08-Aug-13 08:56:49

haha, yep my 3 7am starts are definitely making me the new expert round here wink

Well, on a very tired day she does 2 lots of 1.5 hours - that's my dream nap day. In reality they are more like 1hr - 1hr15 each. Yesterday however, she slept 45 mins in the morning and 1hr 15 in the afternoon. In my expert opinion it doesn't make any difference to the night sleep at the moment! I never wake her from naps unless it is excessive (like more than two hours, so about twice in her life)

brightonbythesea Thu 08-Aug-13 18:47:10

backinaminute sorry to hear you are in the early wake up club, it's a right pain, and exhausting. My daughter has done a few good mornings in the last few days but I can't pinpoint it to anything for sure. If I get another couple of reasonable wake up times, I think I am going to say that the very early bedtime to avoid overtiredness is what is helping. I've not changed anything else other than making sure she's in bed earlier than other babies seem to go!

brightonbythesea Mon 12-Aug-13 11:20:00

whats newsy early waking comrades? my dd is about 1/2 a week up before 6, the other half up between 6.30-7. hope you are gettig some success smile

minipie Mon 12-Aug-13 11:54:37

hello! well we seem to have a lot of 6ams at the moment - somewhere between 10 to 6 and 10 past 6. Given the consistency I don't think there's anything particularly causing it, I think she's just had enough sleep ... could be worse i suppose <resolves for the millionth time to get to bed earlier>

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