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Anyone successfully done CC with a two year-old?

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spotofcheerfulness Sat 02-Mar-13 11:49:13

I can't believe I've let it get this far - but I've spent the last two years in a sleep-deprived fug and can't carry on. I need to get work and my brain isn't functioning as it should.

My sleep habits with my two year old DS are terrible. He gets given bits of milk through the night, starts the night in his own cot and then comes into my bed when he makes a fuss in the small hours. I wish the whole co-sleeping thing worked for us, but I don't get a wink when he's in with me. It's honestly like having a newborn.

I've always erred on the side of caution as he has severe reflux, and although he's on strong meds, I've worried about leaving him to cry as I can't be sure if it's pain or not.

However, the fact that he falls asleep the moment he's with me kind of proves otherwise.

In order to get him to go to sleep in his cot at the start of the evening I have to hold his hands through the bars for half an hour.

Writing it down like this makes me realise how daft it's got. His sleep is totally controlling the household.

Thing is I have an older DS who is four, and who is quite a light sleeper, so not very sure how it will work. I just know that I can't let things carry on as they are. Any advice most welcome!

abbyfromoz Sun 17-Mar-13 18:43:11

Thanks guys. Yes she's generally good but got back from Aus a few weeks ago and had some random 4am wake up calls... I keep saying 'bubba! It' still dark!' But she's wiiiide awake. Haven't tried to clock- she may be a bit too little but not far off! Will give it a go though! grin

HenD19 Sun 17-Mar-13 06:55:09

Welcome abbyfromoz and am presuming your little one is giving you hassle too re sleeping? Have you tried the gro clock yet? My DD has one and it works really well for her but thought DS was too young yet so will be interested to see how your DS gets on with it.

It sounds like you've cracked it spot! You must be really pleased although 5.30 still feels like the middle of the night, especially at the weekend so feel for you there.

We are still struggling at getting DS to stay in bed at night but he is getting slowly better and getting out less. We've adopted the bollocking approach which incidentally isn't recommended by any of the books but seems to be the only thing that makes him stay in bed. I hate making him go to sleep in this way but the softly softly way just wasn't working. I know he'll be much better at settling at night once he dtops his afternoon nap. He's sleeping through on the odd night but still waking most nights so I suppose there has been an improvement just not as much as I want!

Enjoy the rest of your weekends smile

spotofcheerfulness Sun 17-Mar-13 06:12:35

Hi Abbyfromoz, how did the first run of the Gro Clock go? We had one and it worked really well with DS1 but I find it doesn't work with two children if they wake each other up easily!
How's your weekend been, Hen.
Things going v well at bedtime here (last night both asleep within 10 mins of lights out) and no waking last night. Both up at half five, but there's nothing to be done about the very noisy dawn chorus!

abbyfromoz Fri 15-Mar-13 23:03:48

Been lurking in the shadows here...
Just had to say! Glo clock! Never even heard of it until today! Learn something new each day...
Also...have a 23 m/o in a cot... Seriously not uncommon

HenD19 Fri 15-Mar-13 19:44:20

Hi spot and hope all well with you, esp sleep wise. I think the cold and hunger are waking DS from time to time but not sure why else he's waking and getting up. It makes me realise how good my DD was as she hardly ever got out of bed at bed time and was and is a great sleeper-we were so lucky but didn't know it. DS is much better if DH settles him to sleep so maybe I am a bit soft. The problem is DH often works late and I mostly put them to bed myself. I'm shattered again tonight so looking forward to sleeping soon.

We are having our loft converted at the mo which is making loads of mess and extra jobs for me.....will be nice when finished but not helping my urge to nest as cant get anything sorted. Have a good weekend x

spotofcheerfulness Wed 13-Mar-13 15:21:55

I was in the same position as you when DS2 was born - it totally sucks sad.
Bit of regression here, had to give DS2 milk at 1.30, then both boys up for the day at 5.30, but am blaming cold draughts from windows.
Could the cold, or hunger be waking him?

HenD19 Tue 12-Mar-13 21:40:21

Feeling exhausted and pd off with not getting a full night's sleep for ages. Sick to death of DS wandering in in the night and closing his eyes as soon as I put him back in bed. Why is he bothering to get out? Also his messing around at bed time is getting to me. Sorry to be so negative but just had enough....want to stock up on sleep before our new baby arrives in may and at this rate I'll be fully sleep deprived already when the baby's out!

spotofcheerfulness Sun 10-Mar-13 20:19:51

Thanks! We had an "awake between 3.30 and 5.30 am this morning shock" - hoping it's a blip! Must be something in the air...

HenD19 Sun 10-Mar-13 08:23:21

Back to waking at 12.30 and 5am but luckily went back to sleep quickly. I think pray we are slowly getting there.....and that you are to...,

spotofcheerfulness Sat 09-Mar-13 22:39:56

That's top news grin. Long may it continue!
Ds2 went to sleep tonight without a peep. Now if I can somehow silence the dawn chorus that wakes us all at 5am, I'll be one happy camper...

HenD19 Sat 09-Mar-13 21:36:19

OMG for goodness....DS has not got out of his bed at all tonight and went fast asleep....please let this be the new norm...... Hope your DC are behaving themselves at night too Spot.

HenD19 Sat 09-Mar-13 14:13:04

Yeah! High 5 to you too!

spotofcheerfulness Sat 09-Mar-13 13:38:18

That is fab, Hen! (Not your cold, obv).
Same here too. High five! grin.

HenD19 Sat 09-Mar-13 08:25:25

And again!

HenD19 Fri 08-Mar-13 11:23:14

DS SLEPT THROUGH!!!! Typically though I didn't as was awake most of the night feeling awful with a dreadful cold.... How are you getting on Spot?

spotofcheerfulness Wed 06-Mar-13 21:16:51

Thanks! I hope you do too.
I have to say though after 4 wakings last night and a 5.10am coming into bed for milk before drifting back off to sleep, I can't exactly say we've cracked it! But still, it feels like huge progress in a short time, and the four night wakings were all very short.
My DS1 sounds like your DS on the "not great at staying in bed even though tired". At least when they're four you can resort to chocolate button in the morning bribery grin.

HenD19 Wed 06-Mar-13 18:08:04

That's brilliant! It's such a relief when things get better. We're into are 4th week of DS waking twice a night every night. Fortunately he's going straight to sleep when I put him back in his bed. Just wish he's stop waking. He's still not great at staying in bed at bed time, even when tired which is really frustrating. I think we're slowly getting there though. Have a good night spot.

spotofcheerfulness Tue 05-Mar-13 20:46:32

Update - both DCs went to sleep on their own tonight - first time this has EVEr happened!
Also had a much better night from DS2. Upshot was that he woke up early, but I'll take that if it means a bit more sleeping through!
How is everyone else doing?

spotofcheerfulness Mon 04-Mar-13 10:00:37

That's fab, Hen- and I'm sure you're right, they are old enough to get that we're there, it'll just take a bit of prompting!
Helebear, thanks for the reassurance grin. I need to be realistic and not assume it'll be sorted in a day!

HenD19 Mon 04-Mar-13 09:15:31

Great news spot! Much better night here too. DS woke at 12 and 1.30 but I put him straight back to bed and he went yo sleep straight away and slept til 6.50. Wonder if he just wants reassurance that he's not on his own in the night?

helebear Mon 04-Mar-13 07:57:03

We just did gradual retreat with dd (nearly 2) as we were still cuddling her to sleep which was taking up to an hour and driving us insane. Anyway, it took 5 weeks of us being really firm with her and dp & I sticking to the same method and saying/ doing the same thing at bedtime & she's now lots better. My point is that whatever method you decide to go with I think you have to dig deep and stick with it and be really consistent because you're essentially breaking a habit & teaching a new way to go to sleep. It's hideous but worth it!

spotofcheerfulness Mon 04-Mar-13 07:43:44

Bloody hell. Knackered this morning.DS was up for an hour 2.30-3.30 but settled fine after and slept til 7.15 this morning! That is an excellent night for us. Shame then that new neighbours' baby screaming all night and them all up for the day and making noise from 5.30. Karma for the last four years I spose <yawn>.
But I feel this hasn't been strictly CC as he hasn't been crying really, just calling out for me. Doesn't seem too bothered this morning I must say...

spotofcheerfulness Sun 03-Mar-13 22:56:10

Good luck tonight! Let me know how it goes tomorrow.
I too will try and stay strong...

HenD19 Sun 03-Mar-13 21:57:49

It took 1hr and he was definitely tired when I first put him into bed. Got to toughen up in the night and stay strong too as have let him sleep with me the last two nights as have been so tired. Am still (like every night in the last 3 wks) hoping for him to shock me and sleep through.....but I doubt it v much. Good luck spotofcheerfullness and hope you have a good night smile

spotofcheerfulness Sun 03-Mar-13 21:19:57

Hah! How long did it take in the end?
TOnight took 1 hr, and I went up every 15 mins, but he wasn't crying, just calling out. I reckon I need to cut down the lunchtime nap as he's just not that tired at bedtime.
MEdicpeso, I am doing the cold turkey tonight but offering water instead. I just worry if I stay with him I'll see his little pleading face and give him some, whereas if I stay outside the room I won't be able to.
It's the coward's way out, isn't it sad.

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