First ever skiing holiday- help me write a list??(18 Posts)
Hi- going on my first skiing holiday in February with DH and two children (11 and 9). DH did quite a bit of skiing in the past but he won't be the one trying to pack for us all and I would really appreciate some advice on what to take, particularly thinking about the kids. Situation is complicated by the fact that we live in the Middle East and so getting clothes here is going to take some forward planning and we are going skiing in Japan- and I'm worried about relying on hiring everything there in case they don't have bigger sizes. I'm hoping for a list I can work through! Thoughts?
I think for skiing you need to allow three layers, although you may well find two is enough. So eg warm tights, then leggings underneath your snow trousers/salopettes For the top half I'd go vest, Long sleeve polo neck tee, a fleece and then the skiing jacket.
Obviously hat/scarf/gloves all of which should be water and wind proof.
For foot wear some sort of non slip boot with thick thermal socks. Rented ski boots can be a little uncomfortable especially the first day.
For evenings have a look on Google maps to see how far away you are from restaurants/bars. Assume that walking will be close to 'treacherous' and plan accordingly for footwear, unless you are staying below the snowline.
Thank you, that's great. I might end up having to buy online- do I need to buy ski jackets a size bigger to get fleece etc underneath or do they factor that in?
Ski jacket and trousers/salopettes
Ski socks x3 per person
Thermal top x 3 per person (2 each per kid, they don't sweat)
Ive never bothered with thermal trousers. Kids have had tights and tracksuit bottoms under ski trousers. I tend to wear running trousers. Again couple of pairs per person.
A buff for your neck.
Hat, I just take ordinary winter hat. I don't think dd has ever worn a hat under her helmet. I tend to take a thin fleece hat to wear under my helmet if cold, then a normal bobble hat for walking round the resort.
Goggles. Dh takes sunglasses and goggles.
Suncream. Lip balm with spf.
Oh yes, fleeces.
I get thin fleeces so never needed a jacket a size bigger. Never needed a thick fleece. The jackets are well insulated, so you don't want to overheat.
Walking should be fine in Japan. They hear the roads with the thermal water from the onsens (sp?) so the roads are clear. Walking boots and thick warm socks will be fine.
It can get cold up on the mountains - particularly when it's snowing and you're on a chairlift - so I would sometimes wear a balaclava.
The key is layers, fleeces.
You'll have a great time. I loved it in Japan!
Thankyou- this is really helping! Luckyblackkitty- can I ask you where you went in Japan? Any Japan specific tips?
Are you doing hotel, chalet or self catering?
When your skiing then you normally wear layers underneath the ski jacket. I take skin tight long sleeve Lycra shirts and add a t-shirt over the top under a warm jacket. As you're new to skiing then you WILL sweat a lot so clean tops for everyday you are skiing. Underneath your ski pants it's usually joggers or long johns. If you're in a chalet or self catering then it's very much casual wear. If it's a hotel then add a couple of pairs of jeans. Skiers aren't normally too formal. Essentially, pack what you would for a week in a cold country, jumpers,t shirts, joggers, pants, socks etc
I normally wear one set of travelling clothes and an additional pair of jeans. I then wear what I'm going to ski in(minus Lycra top) the next day at night
So per person
Ski jacket x 1
Ski pants/salopettes x 1
Gloves x 1 pair
Goggles or sunglasses x 1 (although I take clear ones and dark ones for different light conditions)
Joggers/long johns x 1 per day skiing
Lycra/thermal tops x 1 per day skiing
Long socks for under the ski boot x 1 per day skiing
T shirts x 1 per day skiing x extras for non skiing/travelling days
Warm boots/shoes for walking about the resort/travelling.
Headover/ neck warmer/scarves for keeping the face warm in very cold conditions. Take 2 or 3 person.
The DC's will have to wear helmets(no helmet = no lessons) they are optional for you but wear one anyway. They can be hired in resort but Lidl and Aldi usually do cheap ones in the winter for kids. If your OH hasn't been for years then he may say adults don't bother, he's wrong. I'd say over 60% of adult skiers now wear helmets.
If OH can ski, get him to take a light daypack with extra fleeces for Cold days but you probably won't need. Kids will need w small bottle of water and w snack in their pockets everyday they are in lessons. You'll need the water too.
It's a lot of stuff/weight to get on a plane so wear ski jackets to travel, fill the hand luggage with stuff as well.
Ibuprofen gel. Lots of it. (For mysterious new aches and pains)
Also make sure you don't have any layers that end anywhere on your shin/foreleg as the ski boots and your stance put a lot of pressure on your shins. My thermal base layer leggings were 3/4 length and ended mid shin (rookie error). I ended up with painful bruising and swelling on my shins. I still have damaged/crushed capillaries visible in that spot 10+ years later. Tights sound ideal as there will be no seams on your shins.
I'm both excited about going and a bit daunted. We are staying in a hotel which is apparently on a main drag of cafes and restaurants. The kids and I will be in lessons as we are complete beginners. We are leaning towards trying snowboarding at the moment as that's what DH prefers but I could be persuaded either way. We have hugely complicated this by planning the holiday after we got back from our trip home to uk where all our winter kit is. There is a thriving secondhand Facebook page in the area I live so I will try that. Thankyou for taking the time to write lists.
If you can get someone to send things to you Mountain Warehouse is good.
Thanks - I've ordered some long sleeved roll necks for the girls from verbaudet as they were in the sale today and some leggings- so Ive at least made a start. None of us even have decent shoes with us- I really hadn't thought through the cost implications of a complete winter wardrobe! Let's hope it turns out that I like skiing....
Sorry for the delayed reply...
We went to Nozawa Onson, Nagano (city sight seeing) and Hakuba in 2012. It was brilliant.
I would recommend a trip to see the snow monkeys:
Nozowa Onson was a traditional resort - smaller than Hakuba - with traditional hotels and restaurants.
Both resorts were quieter than what we were used to in Europe. We loved it.
The key for clothing - as everyone has said - is layers.
You'll have a great time!
Feel free to ask anything else.
I found that tights and ski socks didnt keep my feet warm so got told to try just ski socks and my feet where 10 times warmer
We take plenty of those handwarmers which you take out of their packet, shake up and put into your gloves. They stay warm for many hours. DH has Renaud's Syndrome so they are essential for him, I just like having cosy fingers.
Will it be warm or cold? (sounds like a daft question), but having skied in -26 and also in a T-shirt, it is a very different experience.
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