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mn hq, can we have an explanation - jess - and maybe re other trolls in future?

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wannaBe Mon 20-Feb-12 13:40:42

I am aware that you can't divulge the means by which you determine whether or not a poster is genuine, predominantly because if you make that common knowledge then posters will know how to avoid being detected in the future.

but jess (long ongoing eleven weeks abortion threads) threads have now been deleted for being a troll, and I was wondering if, given it's the site users who usually report these things, we could perhaps have a bit more by way of explanation?

e.g. when sassysusan was banned, mn hq confirmed that she had previously posted as washwithcare, and users were able to identify.

There has been some speculation that jess was dizzymare, and I wondered whether this was the case?

Also, these threads have been ongoing for over a month now. How is it that it takes quite this long to determine that someone isn't actually all they seem?

StealthPolarBear Mon 20-Feb-12 13:43:24

Yes, I agree. I assume there was proof she was trolling to delete her thread. I am really struggling to make sense of it all and what would have happned next.

LilacWaltz Mon 20-Feb-12 13:45:06

Did she herself ask for it to be deleted? Maybe?

Gribble Mon 20-Feb-12 13:45:21

oooh so she was a troll then? What a little mare.....

StealthPolarBear Mon 20-Feb-12 13:47:01

No lw it was deleted by mnhq

wannaBe Mon 20-Feb-12 13:47:04

my issue is, there were people on the threads offering real practical help and support, baby clothes, meet-ups, even one who offered a place to stay.

While posters are and should always be responsible for themselves online and should practically not offer more than they can afford to, (be that emotionally or physically), the longer a situation goes on, with some obvious hints that many posters doubt the authenticity, and with no response from mn hq, the more likely posters are to believe that soemone is in fact genuine and that it's just nasty people looking to derail a thread, and perhaps feel comfortable offering that support to someone who as it turns out, wasn't all they were cracked up to be.

everlong Mon 20-Feb-12 13:47:05

I agree.
I had my doubts very early on regarding this poster but sat it out as I wasn't sure but there has been quite a lot of ill feeling surrounding this thread and I think quite a few people would appreciate some feedback.

TheOneWithTheHair Mon 20-Feb-12 13:48:15

If she really was a troll I think it's sick. So many people cared and offered help both practical and psychological. It hurts so many people! sad

wannaBe Mon 20-Feb-12 13:48:20

lw no mn hq deleted the thread saying that all wasn't as it seemed.

Northernlurker Mon 20-Feb-12 13:48:25

I hope nobody is vulnerable having been in RL touch with 'her'.

flywiththecrows Mon 20-Feb-12 13:48:47


LilacWaltz Mon 20-Feb-12 13:49:37

Oh I missed that then!

BlackCatTryingToFly Mon 20-Feb-12 13:50:38

I wouldn't know who was a troll unless they were posting about something silly or strange.
I namechange sometimes but that is because some things I post about are sensitive and personal so wouldn't want everyone to know it was me under my usual name.

I wonder if maybe we should each be limited to a certain amount of nicknames to stop trolls changing all the time or make them easier to pick out??

everlong Mon 20-Feb-12 13:51:27

I'm sure her 'followers' must be feeling upset and hurt after all the care they showed her.

But if any good can come out this is that maybe next they come across such a thread they think carefully before divulging information about themselves.

StealthPolarBear Mon 20-Feb-12 13:52:59

Theone, there's a good chance a 16w foetus won't be aborted though (hopefully never existed). So on the whole I'm happy.

MyNameIsntFUCKINGWarren Mon 20-Feb-12 13:53:11

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

StarlightDicKenzie Mon 20-Feb-12 13:53:23

Oh God. I gave up on that thread long ago. Guess I've just been here too long and seen to many.......

StealthPolarBear Mon 20-Feb-12 13:56:03

I think most of us had suspicions but did the benefit of the doubt thing

ForeverProcrastinating Mon 20-Feb-12 13:56:04

I'm another who would like some clarity and closure on this, really for the same reasons as the previous two posters have just said.

StarlightDicKenzie Mon 20-Feb-12 13:56:41

Oh God. I gave up on that thread long ago. Guess I've just been here too long and seen to many.......

wannaBe Mon 20-Feb-12 13:56:43

Starlight I hadn't seen it until Saturday - had seen the threads in active but hadn't clicked, but when it got to the 3rd thread I did wonder so had a look. As soon as I read the op I thought hmm and wondered whether the early traumatic birth and death of the baby would follow in the next few weeks <cynic>.

She has identacle posts all over the internet. Some of which confirm she has decided to keep the baby and some don't. I think it's almost certainly dizzymare (whoever she might be in rl) as this was her style.

LeBOF Mon 20-Feb-12 13:56:45

I think there were a few threads across the web from the same woman, with completely different timescales. So likely to be bunkum. Google is your friend.

everlong Mon 20-Feb-12 13:59:00

I agree le bof quiet a few in fact.

franke Mon 20-Feb-12 13:59:49

I'm assuming it was a returning troll - there are a few likely candidates going back a number of years.

debka Mon 20-Feb-12 14:00:24

Why would someone do that? I just don't understand why you would create this whole pretence. Do these people have nothing better to do?

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