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On the subject of deleting threads...

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BitOfFun Sat 13-Jun-09 09:16:26

Would there be any way of a thread being frozen after a certain number of complaints until MNHQ has time to look at it?

There is an incredibly offensive one in Active Convos which divvies keep bumping because they are understandably outraged, and it's been going for ages without deletion, presumably because it's the weekend.

It is not nice to think that groups like the BNP are able to come here and wind members up, and if a thread could be frozen after, say 25 people reported it until you had a chance to assess things, at least the trolls would stop being fed and it wouldn't stay active to offend and upset even more people.

Just an idea- I'm not sure how workable it would be?

flamingobingo Sat 13-Jun-09 09:17:13

Very good idea.

BitOfFun Sat 13-Jun-09 09:32:35

It would be good if it worked! Any tech-savvy types know if it's possible?

BitOfFun Sat 13-Jun-09 11:05:55

Well I see the thread in question is staying sad

I hope the BNP don't do their usual slimy trick of staying just the right side of the rules to spread their vile crap here. They are pretty media savvy these days.

psychomum5 Sat 13-Jun-09 11:19:37

I 'spect the MNHQ top bods are all in a corner rocking and whimpering after the onslaught of trolls and deleting this week, and are not aware that it is still continueing.

either that or they are out having a life funshock!!

BitOfFun Sat 13-Jun-09 11:32:23

No, it's staying because it doesn't break any rules, apparently!

I am getting ready for a lovely family barbie, so nothng will wind me up for now smile

AitchTwoOh Sat 13-Jun-09 11:37:54

i've not seen the thread in question but i'm against censorship in general. tbh i even loathe it when mnhq delete posts, i think if there is an offensive bit of a post (such as calling someone insane, for example <grinds axe lightly> in an otherwise thoughtful and factually correct post) it's not beyond the ken of MNHQ do delete that bit and leave the rest.

wrt to the BNP, i'm actually fairly keen to see what they have to say in public and am appalled that some daft lefty group is saying that they're going to egg griffin every time he speaks.

Trikken Sat 13-Jun-09 11:38:27

sounds like fun BOF. Am jealous, I have to work later!

AitchTwoOh Sat 13-Jun-09 11:39:20

egg griffin, lol, sounds like a very decadent meal.

policywonk Sat 13-Jun-09 11:40:25

I guess, from MNHQ's POV, they can't delete every thread that upsets someone. There has to be a stronger reason (abuse, legal issues etc). The thread in question is based on a crappy premise, but the OP hasn't been personally abusive, and she isn't saying 'rape is fine, get over it' - she's just demonstrating some ignorance (and, as one of the posters on that thread pointed out, it's probably a POV that is more widely shared than we like to admit - so having so many rebuttals on the thread is actually performing a valuable re-education service).

AitchTwoOh Sat 13-Jun-09 11:43:23

oh is that the 'how can etc in marriage' one? that's not offensive in itself, imo. she's just ignorant and, some might say, fortunate.

policywonk Sat 13-Jun-09 11:50:07

Yeah, that's what I think, I think <thinks>

Have a good day, BoF. Don't suppose you want to edit an article about house-building in the UK while I go to your BBQ?

psychomum5 Sat 13-Jun-09 11:53:04

right, so that thread is ok, upsetting people and the OP is ignorant (to be mild), but that is ok.


so what was wrong with all the other threads this week that they deleted with no reason then that we can see, and certainly were not upsetting anyone bar one person off board who might/might not be real???

daftpunk Sat 13-Jun-09 11:55:44 do you know that thread was started by someone from the BNP?....i've re-read it and tbh it sounds like a woman just ignorant to of few things.....i'm not sure the BNP have even heard of mumsnet....a bit too fluffy for them i would have thought..

policywonk Sat 13-Jun-09 11:56:09

Do you mean S t e i n e r threads, Psycho? Or were there others this week?

TheDevilWearsYFronts Sat 13-Jun-09 11:57:02

Divvies, haha.

I read that thread and had to sit on my hands.

policywonk Sat 13-Jun-09 11:59:12

And I really don't think we can delete stuff just for being upsetting. We're all upset by different things - I've used this example elsewhere this week, but I'm extremely upset by posts slagging off smokers and saying that the NHS shouldn't treat them (as my mother died recently of a smoking-related disease), but I don't for a minute expect MN to cater for this.

And I really do think that the thread in question is doing a rather good job of correcting a fairly common misconception.

Surely it's better to discuss these things in the open?

psychomum5 Sat 13-Jun-09 12:01:22

policy, was not thinking of those TBH.....there have been others this week that I have been on that were.

having said that, the threads you allude to, they too also seem to get deleted don;t they??

I was thinking about it tho lots last night....(yep, still thinking MN when I am not on it......addicted, me, nahhhhmmwink), and I think that MNHQ have been burnt so much by the legal action they went thru, as much as we have been with trolls (and on my part I have been!), that I think they are maybe getting over cautious now and delete thru worry(IYGWIM).

daftpunk Sat 13-Jun-09 12:02:02

exactly PW...a thread was started this week calling all the striking RMT workers "lazy greedy arses"....that's offensive imo.

StayFrosty Sat 13-Jun-09 12:03:37

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

policywonk Sat 13-Jun-09 12:05:07

I think it's true that MNHQ are deleting threads that might lead to legal trouble fairly quickly. I find it hard to blame them too much for this though - it's not like they're a national newspaper with an enormous legal fund. If they get taken to the cleaners, MNHQ founders will be personally responsible for the costs.

psychomum5 Sat 13-Jun-09 12:06:31

you make a good point policy.

policywonk Sat 13-Jun-09 12:09:00

Aw, does that mean you're not going to debate with me and I'm going to have to do some work instead? <sulk> grin

FluffyBunnyGoneBad Sat 13-Jun-09 12:15:06

I remember a thread ages ago where the OP was asking for info on how to translate a foreign language document on how to make a bomb or something stupid like this. It was very quickly removed. I can't see why they leave others when they are clearly designed to cause distress. The mental health of each person on here should be equally as important as the threat of an MI5/MI6 investigation. (I know it's extreme but can you see my point?)

TheDevilWearsYFronts Sat 13-Jun-09 12:19:49

I'll debate with you Policywonk,

so, erm , does my bum look big in this?

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