I think it's important that the discussion is in mainstream areas - lots of posters on the threads have said they don't go into FWR and only found them because they were in chat, but found them enlightening.
I don't think that it would work. There are a lot of transphobic threads in FWR, but there are also threads for parents supporting trans children, or trans parents, or partners of trans people. I don't think that those two discrete groups of Mumsnetters should have to share an uncomfortable space.
Genuine question to jasper and need - what do you see as transphobic in the current discussions? Can you give me examples of things you have seen which you would class as hateful, because I'm not seeing it (though I suspect I may be one of the people you consider transphobic).
And to Tiggy and Katharine, what has anyone said that is equivalent to the racism of the BNP?
We are pointing out biological facts and realities- that's the race equivalent of saying that some races are more likely to suffer sickle cell anaemia, or lactose intolerance or are more likely to need sunscreen. Those aren't racist dogma, they are facts.
We have been saying that trans women are different to biological women, and that presents difficulties in certain situations. I won't be silenced from saying that by you labelling me a bigot.
There's already a TBLG children section, and a BLTG parents one too. As the cis trans-deniers on here only really discuss in what way trans people are wrong, there's no real enthusiasm for the non-bigots to post on trans threads. MNHQ delete the worst of the abuse, but leave half the stuff up in the belief that it's the victim's job to point out that it's wrong. A bit like saying it's the bullied person's job to stand up to the 20 bullies, and if they don't it's their fault. Mumsnet is just not a safe environment if you're trans, and MNHQ should be ashamed of themselves.
What is this abuse, TiggyD? I don't see anyone saying that trans men and women are terrible people who deserve discrimination and should be shunned.
How is MN "unsafe"? It's a website, not a RL environment and I believe that all of the posters who don't accept the term 'cis' have said repeatedly that they wish trans women who just want to get on with their lives no harm and would not deliberately misgender them.
I do, however, see concerned women who care that they aren't allowed to call FGM FEMALE Genital Mutilation because it's 'transphobic', I do see a growing concern that anyone who says they feel like a woman automatically is one. That leaves us unable to name the problem. We already see the 'oh, but it happens to men too!' crowd pile in when we attempt to discuss male violence, having to say 'lack of access to abortion is a problem for people who are able to become pregnant, be they men, women, intersex, genderqueer, you name it' instead of 'lack of access to abortion is a problem for women', because of a few hurt feelings - it's beyond petty.