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JustineMumsnet · 30/05/2012 19:50

So we've had a get together at MNHQ and we have come up with the following set of actions/proposals, following on from the previous thread:

  1. We will make more effort to be communicative and transparent. This will include the MNHQ duty person posting on the boards more to explain a deletion of a post or a thread and providing more info in cases where we have banned or suspended someone for trolling, so folks know that we are "doing something". We will also try to provide more specific message deleted info - ie more than just because it "breaks talks guidelines" (eg because it perpetuates rape myths etc) (NB this will take a bit of time because it involves tech)


  1. We will aim to be quicker to delete threads that have been or seem to have been started purely to inflame/goad, even if it means we occasionally might make a mistake. This is to avoid the goady threads where an OP is deliberately inflaming, leading to a lot of deleted responses. We will also suspend those who we suspect of being out to deliberately goad and make sure our guidelines reflect this.


  1. We will aim for a lighter touch approach to deletions where discussion is robust but lively and interesting and "attacks" are borderline/very slight/ 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.


  1. We will make sure everyone at MNHQ is aware of looking at the bigger picture - not just focus on the reported post - and is clear on what constitutes a personal attack - ie that it's ok to attack an opinion, not ok to attack a poster.


  1. Our policy on trollhunting remains not to tolerate it - so please don't do it, but please do report suspicions to us. That said, we will try to be more communicative on threads where folks suspect a troll - ie we are aware that some people have expressed doubts and we are looking into it/ we have checked this out and have no reason to believe this person is a troll/ we agree this person is not what they seem and have deleted the thread.


  1. We will hold regular chats/q&as about moderation issues and policy - monthlyish? - where we can have a good debate about any particular bugbear or issue and one of us will discuss policy and why we do what we do...


Out of interest we've checked the deletions thing and surprisingly the number of deleted messages seems to have dropped not risen year on year - even though traffic is up by more than 40%
(these include messages deleted from deleted threads - so one long thread = 1000 deletions)

Jan 1st 2011 to May 29th 2011: 81884 messages
Jan 1st 2012 to May 29th 2012: 72037 messages

Nonetheless we think people have raised some good points and we hope all trying the above will make the board better - if not we'll try something else Smile - thanks for all the input.

Please do post your thoughts/observations (disclaimer - I'm off out shortly so won't be around to respond tonight but will be back tomorrow)
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Hullygully · 30/05/2012 19:55

Oh yeah.

Post and run.

heh heh

Good show. Well done.

Even if you didn't use my speech I wrote special.

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JustineMumsnet · 30/05/2012 19:56

@Hullygully

Oh yeah.

Post and run.

heh heh

Good show. Well done.

Even if you didn't use my speech I wrote special.


I is not doing another bleedin' 6 hours computer time tonight, no ways - last day of balmy weather I'm told....
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HoneyDragonWearingLederhosen · 30/05/2012 19:56

You're a bloody good egg Justine, and HQ.

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Hullygully · 30/05/2012 19:57

Lightweight

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Rabbitee · 30/05/2012 19:57

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SpringHeeledJack · 30/05/2012 19:59

vair good Justine

mind you if I were you I'd probly just scream IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU CAN ALL JUST FUCK OFF

like what I do to the kids at tea time

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UnRoyalCharter · 30/05/2012 19:59

thanks for tackling this head on

much appreciated Thanks

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UnRoyalCharter · 30/05/2012 20:00

wonders if this should be deleted as is a fred abaht a fred

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LadyBeagleEyes · 30/05/2012 20:01

Well I thought Justine wos being very reasonable there.
Obviously taking people opinions on.
suck up.

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CarpeJugulum · 30/05/2012 20:02

I like.

May unhide AIBU & Chat again!

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MrsSnaplegs · 30/05/2012 20:03

Thanks Justine - we'll save you a Rum on HMS Mumsnet Wink

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BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 30/05/2012 20:04

Thanks Justine.
Sounds promising. Have a nice evening Wine.

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Maryz · 30/05/2012 20:04

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PrincessPinot · 30/05/2012 20:04

I like too.

Thanks Thanks

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Fuzzywood · 30/05/2012 20:05

Thanks Justine Thanks. Sounds really positive to me.

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Maryz · 30/05/2012 20:05

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ToothbrushThief · 30/05/2012 20:05

I think she should work for the foreign office - somewhere troublesome (for a huge fee of course) for that diplomatic post

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stoatie · 30/05/2012 20:05

Sounds good - ponders if we will get a "report goader" thread

Disclaimer - not that I ever have

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Sparklingbunting · 30/05/2012 20:05

Would it be useful to keep the deleted thread title but when you click on it there is an announcement of the thread being deleted and why? That would get rid of all the 'where has the thread gone' posts.

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PrincessPinot · 30/05/2012 20:06

Maryz thats a superb idea, the auto-lock when a whole bundle of red-button-banging occurs.

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stoatie · 30/05/2012 20:06

meant report goader button not thread

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champagnesuperdupernova · 30/05/2012 20:06
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EmpressOfTheSevenOceans · 30/05/2012 20:07

Thanks Justine.

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Chubfuddler · 30/05/2012 20:09

I think Justin's should write a parenting book or something, so patient and reasonable.

Oh wait...

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Chubfuddler · 30/05/2012 20:09

That said justine when I typed it.

Stupid phone.

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