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So its impossible to get into Colyton Grammar ?

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HoratioHappened Fri 06-Nov-09 16:20:01

My middle child came home from school and told me some of her friends are going to take the 11 plus for Colyton next year. She said she wants to do it as well. We decided she could have a go if she wanted.

However, I was having a coffee with a friend with kids at a local private school who told me it was hopless as they only take kids from private schools these days and she would never get in. Is this really true ? Do they not have to make sure they take at least a few from state schools ?

Allthebestnamesareused Fri 08-Sep-17 17:52:13

Hi JustaWorkingMother

You appear to have revived a ZOMBIE thread so may be better off starting a new one. But good luck to your daughter Kendrick is a great school. We used to live in Reading but live in Cambridge now.

JustaWorkingmother Fri 08-Sep-17 11:36:15

Hi All,

I rarely post, but really wanted to share my experience of the 11plus preparation process.

We live in Hampshire (no grammars) but we are just in catchment for Kendrick School Reading. We have a very bright eldest daughter who was when visited the school said 'so there is a school for people like me, with children like me!' Heartbreaking, so we started on the preparation journey...........

Our primary school said they couldn't help as the DFE says children are not allowed to be taught the next years work early, however the main point is the 11plus is based on KS2, of which I years worth is not taught until after the exam (16th September.)

We found a brilliant tutor group, all books,materials,revision schedules come from there - most importantly for our daughter was meeting other children on the same journey and made new friends from other schools, the key to it all seems to be regular practice. We have been determined to make sure she does everything else others do, particularly over the holidays (rafting,canoeing,cooking,dog walking, horse-riding.................)

Hopefully she will pass (the practice of timings per question has been the hardest part), but If not she is well aware of how loved she is and we are proud no matter what!

Cannot say I will be in bits waiting for the results mind you!
Hope this helps.x

guardian123 Wed 26-Oct-16 21:11:35

Hi designguru,

To most parents, tuition means paying someone to teach new concept and repeatedly practise questions mainly for exam purpose. Although you said you don't believe in it but what you did was exactly the essence of tuition. In fact everyday 30mins - 1hour for a whole year is considered as highly intensive. It is a lot more than others who pay for tuition.

designguru Wed 19-Oct-16 23:37:58

I am very happy today that my daughter got admission to Colyton Grammar School for 2017. I have to say a big thank you for all of you. As I was struggling where to start coaching for 11 Plus exam for my daughter. Also I strongly believe tuitions wont help her to get into 11 plus. So what is the solution. As my wife is very keen to put my daughter in private school if she is not successful in her 11 plus exam , so I was worried about the expenses that private schooling demands. Decided to try my luck and started googling and getting into forums. My daughter at school always an average girl in academics and also she studied in a state school and the quality of teachers was not great. Several teachers come and go. Then I decided to buy as much books as possible. Bought used books from ebay and amazon for £250. Also new books for £400. Bought loads of A4 and notebooks. Every day I will ask her to work 30min on those books initially for first 6 months. Later 6 months she worked 1 hour every day. When i say every day doesnt mean every day. She will not miss her TV, walking , birthday party, playing in parks and grounds and having her own personal time as well. But one extra thing i did was to put her in swimming and that relaxed her a lot. During the first 6 months I concentrated more on maths and verbal reasoning and let her read loads of story books . Second half I downloaded all free sample papers and we both worked together. Thats all we did and she managed to clear the entrance exam.
If you need more info feel free to contact me.

LetTheSunShine1 Tue 16-Sep-14 10:36:52

There is a bus from Cullompton. Taunton would be fine, kids travel from all over.

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HercShipwright Mon 14-Jul-14 13:48:27

I expect some people do (I know some come from as far away as Torquay) but since there isn't an organised bus, it would be more tricky to organise, I suppose. Taunton is actually closer, in terms of miles, than where we are. But we have the bus which makes a huge difference.

IdespairIreallydo Mon 14-Jul-14 13:29:02

Thank you HercShipwright. At the open morning one of the pupils showing us around said that children come from Taunton - hence I wondered about a school bus. It is long journey but I know many others travel some distances/times for school. My query was re the practical logistics of the journey, not entry.

Yes, we are relocating. It was just to cover all options, I would have loved to try for Grammar if we lived nearer.

HercShipwright Mon 14-Jul-14 12:30:49

There isn't a bus (at least, none of the 'school buses' go to Taunton). No idea what it would be like to drive. I don't think there is a train (Axminster, the nearest station, is on the 'other line', isn't it? The waterloo one, which doesn't stop at Taunton)

From your other threads though I thought you were relocating to be very close to your preferred school so I don't quite understand...proximity to Colyton is only relevant for the 124th place...

IdespairIreallydo Sun 13-Jul-14 20:48:34


IdespairIreallydo Tue 08-Jul-14 21:49:29

Sidetracking this thread a little, does anyone commute to CGS from Taunton? Is it really too far ? Thinking of short dark winter nights I'm wondering if the whole thing is do able on a practical travelling basis?

MrsLeap Tue 08-Jul-14 17:16:43

Oh dear, what a lot of rubbish is being written on here about Colyton Grammar. One of my children has been at the school for 4 years. Let me set the record straight . Firstly, you don't need to have been educated in a private school but even if your child has, there is no obvious educational advantage when taking the entrance exam. Secondly, most do not coach their children to enter the school. Virtually all of the parents I know didn't and besides, those children that have will in all likelihood struggle once they are in the system unless they possess an ability to learn. Thirdly, I do not know one parent that has a child at the school that reports their child is unhappy. The school is fantastically supporting, is not in the least elitist and does what it says on the tin. The setting is fantastic, the staff are superb and my only regret is that my eldest didn't get the opportunity to go. My son would be mortified if he had to leave Colyton. Its an unfortunate trait of the British to sneer at success as is evident by some of the contributors on this page.

HercShipwright Tue 11-Mar-14 17:41:02

bucket I think you'll find that the people who say the kids hate it there are people whose kids don't go to the school.

bucket2000 Tue 11-Mar-14 16:13:27

I just wanted to say that you to the students who posted on this board. I have been desperately wanting to find students who attend Colyton as I really want my daughter to get into colyton if she is able but as long as Children enjoy it. I think the key is to support your child so they know what the exams will be about but not to be so tutored that when the tutoring stops they will find the school hell. Colyton do not actually agree with tutoring, I believe for that reason but they do have some recommended reading.

We do not want our daughter to go through school being the bottom so if she can get in with the recommended reading then so it will be.

I am glad the students are enjoying their time as I have heard a lot of people who say that students do not and I can only think it is the children who are finding it harder.

Its like anything i.e. we start running and we hate it, we hate it because we are unfit, a month later we enjoy it because we can do it

UnlimitedWords Sun 15-Sep-13 15:24:22

I am also at Colyton and wanted to reinstate the points above, I am in year 10 and am in my second year of GCSEs.

I joined in year 7 like the majority but we had one girl arrive at the end of year 7/beginning of year 8 and two boys arrive in year 9. My mum had bought some Non-Verbal Reasoning practice papers from WHSmiths and that was all the preparation I had. The reason she got these was because none of us had even heard of Non-Verbal Reasoning beforehand and I was slightly confused, it helped me a lot but wouldn't have made the difference between getting in and not getting in.

I think it is such a good school and a great idea to try out for it, the school is prestigious and therefore many people are slightly scared or wary of it but the teaching standard is great and the people are so nice.

I came from a primary school in Somerset with 36 pupils, my friends came from similar ones all around, though none came from the same school. I admit some students come from private schools like Maynard's, St Leonard and Exeter but from what I have seen, the majority don't.

Please don't listen to the rumors, they are often unjustified and prejudiced.

hjall Wed 27-Mar-13 19:10:35

I'm in exactly the same situation as the person above. I came across this online and felt the need to speak out and stop the chatter about it being 'impossible to get in' and other rumours about the school. I, personally, am in sixth form and would not describe myself as either a high flyer nor a struggling student.

I joined the school in year 7 and I came from a private school but previous to that I came from a state school. I feel it is an even spread between private and state schools that children have come from, but I've been at school with people for 5years+ now, and I dont know what educational background they had came from. To be perfectly honest, it doesnt matter to anyone at the school!

Coming up to the test, I looked through various books to familliarise myself with styles of questions I would be asked in the test. I would like to stress that this gave me the ability to apply my brain to the questions- NOT to tutor myself up to the exams. There is a fine line between the two.

I find this to be an example of being a driven character who is eager to learn. That is the kind of child that should be in the school, as I have seen peers fall behind because they were not driven and were tutored to just pass the exam. People forget that- yes, it is a good school, but at the end of the day the child has to work to get the grades. Going to a good school doesnt automaticly get you there.

I would agree to not listen to romours because often parents think of their child as the best thing in the world, and rightfully so, but then take their plight to the internet and spread things about the school that simply are rediculous! It could be possible that other schools make up rumours, but I would hope that they have better things to do!

I find the school to be a great place which has the students futures in mind. Teachers are passionate about their subject, the welfare of the pupils and the pupils ability in the subject. I have found that they try their upmost to satisfy the needs of the kids (which is extremely commendable) and I think that no other schools can offer that to the standard Colyton does smile

ilovecustard Sun 17-Feb-13 12:52:54

I came across this thread while looking for something else. As a current sixth form student at Colyton Grammar School (I registered on this because I saw the original post, and felt it was so totally wrong it necessitated a reply), I can clarify that it is NOT impossible to get in. I came from a very ordinary primary school in central Exeter, and had absolutely no tutoring for the 11+ whatsoever. Two other children from my year at primary school also passed the 11+, none with any form of tutoring. In fact, the children in my year who had private tutoring for the 11+ tend to be those who have struggled more with the work load and faster pace of lessons.

Maybe one or two of my friends did attend private primary schools, but they are by every means in the minority. Most people have come from small village schools, or very ordinary primary and home environments. The school base the admissions purely on success in the 11+, NOT on whether you have come from a private primary school.

I think the best piece of advice with Colyton is not to listen to the rumours, they tend to be started by people who know nothing about the school, or by competing schools.

AvengingGerbil Thu 20-Dec-12 16:25:13

This is the Zombie-est thread ever - it just keeps coming back!

exlancs Thu 20-Dec-12 16:17:30

My son got into Colyton Grammar last year after attending a small village school (not a private one) in Lancashire, I think if you need to tutor your child to pass the test then they may struggle in year 8, but it is a personal choice. The mix of children that go is varied and not mainly kids from private schools as some might think, the only thing you need to get in is to pass the test. Most of the kids are not from rich backgrounds although there are some wealthy familys like at alot of schools. All in all we feel that the school is excellent and not at all snobby, the kids seem very friendly and happy , everyone is made welcome, the staff are aproachable to both parents and the kids. As you can tell, we love the school.

HeidiCGS Sat 10-Nov-12 16:38:56

Hi, I was chatting with the headmaster about admissions (because I was helping out at the 11+ days) and he said that last year, about 100 students passed the test, so all got the place, and then the next 20 ish are accepted, with a few more put on the the waiting list in case people can't take up the place. The system works well. And well done to those who have kids here smile
It's my last year at Colyton now, and as I said when I posted a few years back, I would never swap my time here for the world. They've been incredibly supportive, and I've had the chance to do many things, especially in the realms of music and science.
My sister now also attends the school, and her personality is totally different to mine and CGS suits her down to the ground. Colyton works for everyone.
Ditto to MordionAgenos, students here thrive. smile

MordionAgenos Tue 16-Oct-12 17:48:09

It's also probably worth remembering that most years some of the kids offered places end up going to the posh schools too (someone in our road did that after being offered a big enough bursary). So there might be more than 25 kids from Cat B who get in also. Well done to both of you, we have never regretted sending DD1 there, it's a wonderful school and the kids thrive. grin

tellitasitisbluntly Mon 15-Oct-12 21:56:06

Well done Yellowtip - bet you feel as proud as me grin.

tellitasitisbluntly Mon 15-Oct-12 21:54:34

just to clarify ... I meant the top 95 students (number), not percent. There are 120 places available for 2013. So, all of Cat A will be offered a place, plus the top half (ish) of those in Cat B.

Yellowtip Mon 15-Oct-12 21:51:57

Seconded tellit. No idea what game internationalmom thought she was playing nor what she thought she could hope to achieve! Another Category A from a small rural primary here too.

tellitasitisbluntly Mon 15-Oct-12 21:44:54

To anyone considering Colyton for entry in 2014 DON'T be put off by some of the random, bitter unfounded gossip included here. My boy, from a normal state primary school, with no private eduction or professional tutoring, has just done the 11+, and got into category A, i.e. the top 95 ... so he will be offered a place next March. Selection is based purely on ability, unless your child ties with another for the 120th place (then it is done on distance). So, if you have a bright child who is keen to give it a go: (1) help them prepare (2) get them some test papers and most importantly DO NOT put them under any pressure. if they are bright enough to go to Colyton and cope with it, then they will get in. If not, then they can still do very well at a comprehensive and have a hugely successful happy life ... I did.

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