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11+ grammar schools / score below the cut off score - would affect future year applications?

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newtothis15 Thu 24-Oct-19 08:36:32

I just read the policy for one of the grammar schools - if the child score below cut off point score, then this child cannot apply in Year 8-11... is it a common policy for grammar schools?

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PettsWoodParadise Thu 24-Oct-19 10:55:28

At DD’s Grammar you can apply for an in-year place and sit a new test when a place comes up. It is even more competitive than a Y7 place as you might have ten or more people applying for one place. Not one place has come up in DD’s year group in all the three plus years she’s been at the school so it is rather irrelevant too. So if you don’t pass for Y7 it would be highly unlikely you’d pass or even have a chance of sitting the test in future years but you aren’t barred from trying if previously sat test for Y7 entry.

JoJoSM2 Thu 24-Oct-19 10:59:12

I haven’t read the policies in details but it makes sense if the test measures ability. A child won’t suddenly become more able in a year or 2.
In my area, I have seen places come up in Y8-10 in grammar school but they’re rare.

PumpkinPandaandBlackTurtleCat Thu 24-Oct-19 21:54:57

At DDs grammar there was a pass score of 104 to be able to go on waiting list - if you got less than that you couldn't go on the list. Only chance after that would be for A Levels if you scored very highly at GCSEs.

To get a place you also needed quite a bit higher than 104 - its around 110 now and there were loads of children scoring between 104 and 110. In DDs school after first week of year 7 when a few kids had gone private and parents had held both places after that 2 places came up in year 7. It was only people moving out of area, one of which was my DD so don't know how many came up in future years but minimal amount to zero.

Maybe try 11 plus forum for specific schools as every school varies.

Africa2go Thu 24-Oct-19 22:00:41

Its a 12 month policy here so you are not allowed to re-sit (or take a 12+) until a year after the 11+ (so start of Yr7). If you pass, you're added to the waiting list of all the girls who passed at 11+ but weren't offered places. If a place becomes available in Yr 7 or Yr 8 then they go through the waiting list as per the oversubscription criteria.

If a place becomes available in Yr 9 or above the eligible girl has to take a series of exams (maths , english, science, modern language) and only if she gets the minimum score is she offered a place. If not, shes withdrawn from the waiting list.

Its all very brutal i think. Having said that my DD (yr 10) has had 2 new girls in her class over the years.

Mustbetimeforachange Sat 26-Oct-19 09:25:47

Which school, OP?

Middleoftheroad Sat 26-Oct-19 10:37:10

I'm in the Birmingham area.

At my one sons' gs it's the same policy you mention. If your child has previously sat the 11 plus test for that area then they cannot sit a test for that school again. Only those who are new to the area and/or who haven't sat the original 11+ can sit for a test at that school. Sixth form admission is obviously based on GCSEs.

The Birmingham grammars keep a waiting list though and if a place comes up at one of the schools then your child can sit a new test at that school.

My other son did this and was 2nd out of 30 or so sitters for one place!

He's at a grammar school. A few boys have moved there or to other grammars in area when places have come up.

hairycabbage Sat 26-Oct-19 10:46:35

My dd didn't pass the test for Year 7, mainly because she panicked and didn't finish it, but then sat another test in Year 9, scored really highly and was offered a place. It was a different test lasting three hours covering Maths, English and Science.
However some schools are likely to have different policies so worth double checking. They should have an in year admission process.

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