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2019 GCSEs and A levels may not take place?

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bananacake2134 Thu 06-Dec-18 22:47:26

Very worrying from Kent County Council.
Making contingency plans for Crash Out/No Deal Brexit.
Looks like LAs are preparing for exams to be compromised at least, cancelled at worst.

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Witchend Fri 07-Dec-18 00:07:08

Of all the things you can suggest Brexit may result in, I don't think that is one of them.

bsc Fri 07-Dec-18 00:09:29

Why are you spreading scaremongering crap across MN? hmm
Most children, exam invigilators etc live close enough to their schools to get there.

bananacake2134 Fri 07-Dec-18 07:23:19

No need to be rude bsc

I'm just posting what one council has posted. Other LAs will be following.

Exams could be 'compromised' according to Kent County Council.

Secondary school stafff and students usually have to commute, and exams rely on substantial IT and postal infrastructrue which would be 'compromised' in the event of No Deal/Crash out brexit.

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CarrieBlue Fri 07-Dec-18 07:27:13

Makes sense if most of Kent’s roads are gridlocked by lorries unable to get through Dover. Glad the council is considering it.

SelpMeGod Fri 07-Dec-18 07:33:18

I live oop norf and we don't even have a Brexit impact assessment yet grin

Obviously Kent has to have this in place because of geography.

I don't know what other information there is on your council's website but there are usually X number of body bags stockpiled for pandemics etc. It does not mean it will happen, just that everyone has to be prepared for if it does. Scare yourself and read school risk assessments for residential trips grin

Mind you if you live in Kent you must be one of those soft Southerners, up here in the North we merely put on some good walking boots and make our way into schools/work/hospitals when it has snowed and traffic has halted. wink

bananacake2134 Fri 07-Dec-18 08:28:30

Selp , the gov has issued basic brexit impact statements on the whole country.

Scotland has issued detailed information on how 'No Deal' Crash out will affect the country.

All Local Authorities have to produce information on how essential services, food and medicine distribution will be achieved.

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TeenTimesTwo Fri 07-Dec-18 08:37:58

No, OP, you are reading it wrong.

As part of their risk planning, Kent has looked at worst case scenario. that there 'could be' disruption.
So having identified the risks, they take steps to mitigate.
Steps for example I would consider
- motor cycles to deliver papers
- schools to check which staff travel in on major arteries liable to be blocked, staff to consider staying over with more local colleagues
- etc.

As the current plan is we leave at the end of March, by early May when exams start it will be obvious how much disruption is being caused by delays at the ports, and schools will have been able to adapt accordingly.

I think Kent is doing sensible risk management, but you are scaremongering.

The whole point of risk planning is to ensure worst case scenarios don't happen.

user1471525753 Fri 07-Dec-18 08:38:13

Sorry but this is rubbish. It's one contingency day which the exam boards have added to the end of the summer exam period. This is after last January's exams were disrupted by snow closures. I'm an exam officer. This is NOTHING to do with Brexit!

cakeisalwaystheanswer Fri 07-Dec-18 08:58:06

You have started 2 separate threads with this nonsense, see AIBU.

You sound like a 15 year old very lazy boy trying to find an excuse to not do his homework? Grow up.

bananacake2134 Fri 07-Dec-18 09:52:20

"You have started 2 separate threads with this nonsense, see AIBU.

You sound like a 15 year old very lazy boy trying to find an excuse to not do his homework? Grow up"

No need to be rude cake
Although flattered you think I am so young.grin

The other thread was about rubbish collection and disposal of dead bodies as well as difficulties with keeping schools and exams going.

Kent Council has produced this.

"Administration of GCSEs and SATS could be compromised if staff and pupil cannot effectively travel to exams."

Other LAs have been instructed to draw up and publish emergency plans.

news.sky.com/story/traffic-chaos-and-school-dinners-at-risk-in-no-deal-brexit-kent-council-warns-11573490

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cakeisalwaystheanswer Fri 07-Dec-18 10:04:48

And the NHS has writtent a 2 page health and safety procedure telling people how to make toast and is warning anyone not trained not to attempt it. There is no shortage of people employed in the UK writing nonsense.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6465605/Hospital-bosses-pen-step-step-guide-staff-make-TOAST.html

Your ridiculous scaremongering will be ignored by anyone with common sense, but anyone with anxiety issues may be genuinely panicked.

bananacake2134 Fri 07-Dec-18 10:31:06

Your ridiculous scaremongering will be ignored by anyone with common sense, but anyone with anxiety issues may be genuinely panicked

How can a Local Authority's statement be scaremongering?

It's on Sky News.

"The administration of GCSEs and SATs could be compromised"

It's just fact, sorry if that upsets you cake

Just thought those with an interest in education might be concerned, is all. smile

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noblegiraffe Fri 07-Dec-18 11:38:06

I know in Kent when Operation Stack is running it does affect children and staff getting to schools as traffic is terrible. But difficult to get to school and impossible to get to school for an exam are not the same thing. Pupils could leave home earlier, exams could start later, arrangements could be made for pupils to stay with friends/relatives closer to school etc.

Raising the issue allows for forward planning. It’s not a promise of doom.

cakeisalwaystheanswer Fri 07-Dec-18 11:59:33

But according to the OP's opener it's not just Kent but all other LAs as well.

We have a holiday home on the coast so I well know the effects of operation gridlock. There are a finite amount of lorries in this part of the world and in 2015 most of them were in Kent, I don't see how this can be any worse.

It doesn't upset me at all because I know bollox when I see it. And I'm now off to endager all of mankind by making myself some toast!

bananacake2134 Sat 08-Dec-18 17:25:19

Update.

Wrote to my LA to confirm schools will be open and GCSE and A level exams will take place post a 'No Deal'/Crash Out 'brexit'.

They replied and could not.

(although they did confirm that they'd had nearly £70m of funding from EU over last 4 years)

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BoneyBackJefferson Sat 08-Dec-18 20:23:44

It is still scaremongering.

There are a lot of possibilities that might happen.

bananacake2134 Sat 08-Dec-18 20:59:06

It is still scaremongering
What does your council say BOneybock?
Has it confirmed schools and exams will be functioning post Crashout/No deal 'brexit'?
How much does your area get in EU funding?

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BoneyBackJefferson Sat 08-Dec-18 21:10:25

banonocoke

It is scaremongering as kent is having to take into account a possible escalation of operation stack, something that has has a detrimental effect on access around that area of kent before.

All councils around the uk have been asked to draft scenarios post brexit, yet you are posting this as a fact, that it will happen, when it is just a possibility.

bananacake2134 Sat 08-Dec-18 21:46:26

I rather like banonocoke grin
All councils around the uk have been asked to draft scenarios post brexit, yet you are posting this as a fact, that it will happen
Posting as a fact. confused
Nope, just wondering..................
Again.
Has your council confirmed that schools and exams will go ahead?
How much has your council had from EU funding?

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BoneyBackJefferson Sat 08-Dec-18 21:56:50

yes, you are posting as a fact that schools will close, exams won't take place.
Your last thread also contained rotting in the streets or some such.

"Has your council confirmed that schools and exams will go ahead?"
nope, but then neither have they stated that they will close as a escalation of project stack in a different county

"How much has your council had from EU funding?"

Couldn't tell you and it would have nothing to do with the title of your thread.

You do know that the exam papers will be in schools up to a week or more before the exams take place?
You do know that teachers do not invigilate exams?
invigilators will be expected as part of their jobs to make allowances for traffic, alternate routes etc.
And schools already make allowances for exam clashes, etc.

bananacake2134 Sat 08-Dec-18 22:14:04

you are posting as a fact that schools will close, exams won't take place

Don't mean to be rude but that's a bit economical with the truth, again.wink

I've quoted Kent County Council's statement that the
The administration of GCSEs and SATs could be compromised"

On the £70M my council is losing from EU funding: that's equivalent of 15 primary school budgets and 4 secondary school budgets a year.

Seems significant otherwise my LA wouldn't have complained about it in their email to me.

My LA was also unable to confirm that schools would stay open and exams would take place.

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Lineofbeauty Sat 08-Dec-18 22:17:29

I have two words.

Millennium Bug.

And I say that as a remoaner.

bananacake2134 Sat 08-Dec-18 22:21:05

I'm sure the history buffs know which previous regime used the slur, 'moaner'. smile

Have a great weekend everyone. smile

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meditrina Sat 08-Dec-18 22:43:35

It appears to be saying that if there is a major interruption to travel links, then the good functioning of schools could be affected. If those dislocations last for more than a couple of months, then the effect on schools will include the public exam period.

Presumably this list is being made now so people can assess the likelihood of the event coming to pass, the likely duration, the severity of the impact (if it happens at all) and what mitifpgatiins can be put in place.

This is good contingency planning, not a statement that this is what is definitely expected.

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