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## Any science teachers who know about AQA combined Science GCSE?

(17 Posts)
Appuskidu Wed 29-Nov-17 17:28:41

I'm primary so a bit clueless about exam boards.

DS is in Y11 and doing the above GCSE. He's set for 9s in Biology ad Physics but only a 7 in Chemistry (most of the class seem set for a 5/6 which seems so much lower than all the other subjects?!). Can anyone explain to me how they work out the two grades you get at the end?

Does it have to be 9-9, 8-8 etc? or can it be 9-8 or 9-7? What would you get it you got 9 in two of the and 7 in the other??

areyoubeingserviced Wed 29-Nov-17 17:35:32

Is he doing Triple Science?

Appuskidu Wed 29-Nov-17 17:42:02

No-double science. Sorry, I thought that was the same as saying combined science.

CarrieBlue Wed 29-Nov-17 18:09:55

Combined Science is the new ‘double’ Science so you’re right!

Each of the six papers has an equal weighting and the 17 possible grades are decided according to the combination of all the marks from each paper. Foundation tier will award grades 1-1 to 5-5, higher will award 4-4 to 9-9 (but there is a safety net of 4-3 if they just fall short). The bit I’m not clear about is if different tiers can be used for different papers (I suspect not, but my students are clearly one tier or the other for all papers and judging by your DSs predicted grades he is higher) - if anyone can tell me for definite I’d be grateful!

TeenTimesTwo Wed 29-Nov-17 18:32:11

No idea, but interested so sort of place marking.

(If it is like BTECs they will add up all the UMS scores and then do the grades based on the total, so 9-9, 9-8, 8-8, 8-7, 7-7 etc. Thus no possibility to get 9-5 for example.)

Appuskidu Wed 29-Nov-17 18:51:37

Thank you for the replies!

So, if he got say, 9,9,7-is it likely he would he get awarded a 9-8 or 8-8?? I can’t get my head around it!

jaimelannistersgoldenhand Wed 29-Nov-17 19:23:34

My son did double last year but

P1 = physics paper 1
C= chemistry
B= biology

TeenTimesTwo Wed 29-Nov-17 19:24:25

I guess it would depend on how high the 9s were and how low the 7s were. I suspect no one can tell you, especially as this is the first year of combined science.

Broadly speaking he needs to act as if every mark on every paper matters as there will be 1 mark that is the borderline between one grade and the next.

TeenTimesTwo Wed 29-Nov-17 19:26:04

Jaime that was the old system where you could get A* for Core and D for Additional. The new system is different.

Fffion Wed 29-Nov-17 19:52:28

With Edexcel, all papers have to be from the same tier.

AlexanderHamilton Thu 30-Nov-17 23:57:05

This is an interesting conversation. My Ds is in Year 9 top set science (I suspect he will be moved down though). He is currently good at physics & chemistry & appalling at Biology (he is autistic & can't cope with human biology).

To give you an idea of the disparity last year he got 65% in chemistry, 63% in physics & 39% in biology last year (he was a grammar school then but is at a comp now)

Rosieposy4 Sat 02-Dec-17 21:35:22

No one can accurately predict this, but boundaries are likely to be tight and i suspect one weak science will still hit you hard, also 9s are supposed to be rare.
Part of it is your schools fault, if he is doing combined then why on earth offer up grades for triple😳, i suspect 8 8 if he really would get 9 9 7 but they don't know that either!

Appuskidu Sun 03-Dec-17 00:53:57

Part of it is your schools fault, if he is doing combined then why on earth offer up grades for triple😳

Probably being clueless here, but what do you mean by that?

TeenTimesTwo Sun 03-Dec-17 10:45:34

I think Rosie means why are they giving separate grades for the 3 sciences when that isn't how the actual GCSE grades are going to be? And that maybe saying you are working at around 8-7 but your biology is dragging it down might be more helpful.

AlexanderHamilton Sun 03-Dec-17 11:38:39

At dd's school there are 3 science teachers so they each give individual grades for their subject. Double & triple students share some classes but triple option students get 2 extra double science lessons per week on a rotation with the three teachers.

Rosieposy4 Sun 03-Dec-17 21:08:54

That is what I mean teen.
We also have three specialist teachers for combined groups, but why would you report three grades?, it bears no resemblance to what the kids are aiming for or likely to get.

Fffion Sun 03-Dec-17 22:27:33

No one knows what the grades will be like. Each student just needs to work hard and do their best.

I can’t see any benefit in telling a student that they are tracking a 9, because the teacher doesn’t have a crystal ball, and the risk is that the student gets a false sense of security.

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