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Can anyone translate this latin sentence, dd doesn't understand her homework!

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rcit · 10/11/2017 20:18

and neither do I!

Cassia et Claudia filiae feminarum sunt.

If you can say why that would help dd also!
Thanks for help Smile

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Annebronte · 10/11/2017 20:19

Cassia and Claudia are the daughters of the woman.

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moreshitandnofuckingredemption · 10/11/2017 20:20

I think it's "Cassia and Claudia are the daughters of the women / women's daughters".
If I'm honest I'm not 100% convinced about the "feminarum" bit but it's the best I can do!

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IrregularCommentary · 10/11/2017 20:20

Cassia and Claudia are the woman's daughters.

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itssquidstella · 10/11/2017 20:21

Cassia and Claudia are the daughters of the women.

Filiae = nominative plural
Feminarum = genitive plural
Sunt = third person plural, present tense, verb "to be"

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moreshitandnofuckingredemption · 10/11/2017 20:21

It's definitely plural ie women not woman

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Annebronte · 10/11/2017 20:22

Sunt means are (it’s a plural form). Verbs go at the end of sentences in Latin. Feminarum is genitive (of) plural of femina (woman). Filiae is daughters.

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pollyhampton · 10/11/2017 20:22

Cassia and Claudia are the daughters of the women :)

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Florene · 10/11/2017 20:22

Disclaimer I don't know any Latin...

But to me it looks like it is 'Cassia and Claudia are female siblings'. No idea why. Just does.

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pollyhampton · 10/11/2017 20:23

Or what they all said ^^

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Annebronte · 10/11/2017 20:23

Sorry, of the women, not woman!

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IrregularCommentary · 10/11/2017 20:23

Sunt is the "they" form of the verb, giving you "are"

Filiae is plural, so gives you daughters.

Feminarum I got as female, and presumably its case shows it's the possessive, though my memory doesn't stretch that far to be specific!

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IrregularCommentary · 10/11/2017 20:23

Sunt is the "they" form of the verb, giving you "are"

Filiae is plural, so gives you daughters.

Feminarum I got as female, and presumably its case shows it's the possessive, though my memory doesn't stretch that far to be specific!

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moreshitandnofuckingredemption · 10/11/2017 20:25

They are definitely not siblings Smile

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Andrewofgg · 10/11/2017 20:26

Omnia scit rete matrum!

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Crumbs1 · 10/11/2017 20:27

Gosh Filiae is first declension feminine. Feminarum is plural genitive - women. Sunt - third person present tense active - are
Literally means daughters women are. So yes, C and C are the women’s daughters.

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rcit · 10/11/2017 20:29

Thank you everyone very much so it looks like Cassia and Claudia are the daughters of the women.

So dd now gets that that the genitive "of the women" bit
but why is "filiae" nominitive? Are Cassia and Claudia, their actual names not the nominative? But filiae also is nominitive Confused

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BastardTart · 10/11/2017 20:32

Cassia and Claudia are the women's daughters.

If it helps I think feminarum is the plural of the genetive case (genetive is belonging to, like David's dog = the dog that belongs to David/the dog of David) . If it was singular it would be the daughters of the woman, but because it is plural it is daughters of the women but that sounds clunky in English so change it to the women's daughters)

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SushiForBreakfast · 10/11/2017 20:36

Yes it’s what’s called an appositive noun phrase:

Summary from a grammar website:

“An appositive is a noun, a noun phrase, or a noun clause which sits next to another noun to rename it or to describe it in another way. (The word appositive comes from the Latin for to put near.)”

For example:

“Don't leave your shoes there, or my dog, Ollie, will munch them.”

(In this example, the appositive is Ollie. It is in apposition (as it's called) to my dog.)

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SushiForBreakfast · 10/11/2017 20:36

You can have more than one noun (or something in the nominative case) in one Latin sentence

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BastardTart · 10/11/2017 20:38

Their names are nominative first declention ( mensa, mensa, mensam, etc)

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BlaWearie · 10/11/2017 20:39

'to be' takes the nominative in Latin & English.

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treaclesoda · 10/11/2017 20:40

This makes me want to appreciate my Latin classes more than I did at the time.

Why are things that bored me at school so much more interesting now?

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qwerty1972 · 10/11/2017 20:42

From what I remember (from a long time ago) when we are told what something is in Latin, the new noun takes the nominative and is called the complement.

Just looked it up 'The nominative is used rather than the accusative because the verb 'to be' is telling us more about the same person rather than describing something done to someone else.' (Latin to GCSE)

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rcit · 10/11/2017 20:43

OK, wonderful thank you so much
We get it now, with thanks to Ollie the dog Grin

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rcit · 10/11/2017 20:44

And the others which we just read

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