Private school

(116 Posts)
Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 07:54:09

Has anyone ever looked into sending their child to a private school? My daughter is 12 and really not getting what she needs at the local comp. She's extremely intelligent (predicted all 9s and 8s for gcse) and she got one mark from full marks on her y6 sats). Wondering if it would be worth it to apply to a private school for a bursary? Theres an excellent school with an open day next saturday. I'm worried about her fitting in? The school shes in at the minute shes more than the black sheep in class and no one takes their work seriously and are continuously picking on her. We are in talks at the moment about moving classes but they are very reluctant. We also viewed a local technical school (but they have a specialisation in STEM which is what she would need for her future career. This is a free academy but the academic results aren't great. Does anyone have any advice?

JoJoSM2 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:04:28

Go to the open day and see what you think. Keep in mind that private doesn't mean academic. Are there any grammar schools in your area? That could be another thing to consider.

BeanBabies Tue 07-Mar-17 08:04:35

I went to an IB private school all my life - yes it's much more challenging and the wealth distribution may make her feel self conscious (some people's families net worth rested in the 100s of millions) but if you think she won't get distracted by that, you should do it.

My school year was £24,000-26,000 each year. It's lucky she is 12 and you're not starting her at 3 or 5 like most. I'm sure you'll find a great private school if that's what you want, but it can be expensive for you and stressful for her. Be 100% sure before committing to it. It's also the added extras which can accumulate costs (ski trips, two week trips to Kenya or Nepal, MUN trips to China) so be sure to ask a lot of questions when seeing schools. All the best!

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:11:40

The results for this particular school are actually the top in the region so I'm hoping they could do well for her. Not sure if you meant fees in your post about being expensive, I would def be applying for a bursary and we are under the threshold to recieve a full bursary so it would be resting on that. I understand that the other costs could be large though but we do have some disposable income to manage that. I dont know whether to call them in advance and explain our situation before the open day? I dont think she'll be phased by their comments and she doesnt actually have our local accent (me and her dad does lol) so she may fit in that way.

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:12:58

What would you say the difference between the private and the grammar? There is a grammar school too.

BeanBabies Tue 07-Mar-17 08:14:54

I say call in advance and just get the details for the open day directly from them, it also shows interest and they might remember you, therefore taking some more time to chat to you during the open day. Plus it's always good to get a feel for the people working there - even if it's just over the phone.

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:21:45

Do you think I should be open about the circumstances? Sorry i suffer from low self confidence, my daughter doesn't though, but im worried I'm gonna show up and they're going to be looking down their noses at us. I need to do this for my daughter though.

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:23:00

I have just looked at the grammar school. They do offer bursaries too but say only for entry into year 7 (and some younger years). Have emailed to see if there are any others open to us though.

LIZS Tue 07-Mar-17 08:23:11

Do you mean a state grammar or is it another private school? Why did you decide not to sit her for state 11+ if it was an option in your area? Any move now would be dependent on spaces anyway.

merlottime Tue 07-Mar-17 08:24:44

Are you looking for entry into Y8 or Y9 in September? Y7 and Y9 tend to be the normal entry points, and in my area you would have missed the boat for Y9 for September. That may not be the case where you are, but I would guess that a school is less likely to have spare funds for bursaries for people joining outside of the main entry round (Y8) or a late applicant for Y9; their funds may be already allocated. It's worth trying to ask the admissions team/bursar before you go for the open day.

Seeline Tue 07-Mar-17 08:26:58

Is it a state grammar or a private school with grammar in its name?
State grammar will be free. Which part of the country are you in?
If you are thinking of the private route, it is worth looking at a couple for comparison - yes they will probably be overwhelming in terms of facilities etc, but try to overlook that and get a feel for the ethos of the school - can you see your DD fitting in there?
As others have said - private doesn't necessarily mean academic, or even good.

LIZS Tue 07-Mar-17 08:27:58

Yes bursary funds are usually allocated at the traditional entry points, although there may be some set aside for existing pupils whose circumstances change while attending the school. It sounds like a private school which just happens to call itself a grammar, perhaps having developed out of a traditional state grammar, in which case there would be little difference if any between it and another independent day school.

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:28:10

Grammar is a private one in the city. Not really usually an option. Just thinking about these now. Shes currently in yr7 so may have to wait till y9?

LIZS Tue 07-Mar-17 08:31:17

Only if it has a year 9 intake. Otherwise you are looking for an occasional place. If she passed their assessment she could be placed on a waiting list. Worth speaking to the admissions secretary and bursar of each to see what likelihood of a place and any funding is.

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:31:27

Dont think theres a state grammar

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:33:51

The one that has the open day doesnt state which year groups they offer funding.

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:34:24

Im feeling hopeful. I may give them a call today.

BertrandRussell Tue 07-Mar-17 08:35:13

What are the results at her current school like? Do high achievers do well? If she's predicted 9s (which surprises me a bit, considering the teachers won't have taught the new syllabus in all subjects yet) the school must be confident that they can help her get them.......

BertrandRussell Tue 07-Mar-17 08:36:40

Sorry, not saying you shoildn't think about moving her-just that you need to think about her current school and what you can do to help her do the best she can there in case moving proves impossible. Full bursaries to private schools are like hen's teeth..........

Looneytune253 Tue 07-Mar-17 08:44:28

Thank you. The predicted grades are done on a national system apparently. Inputting their sats results and their current standards and gives teachers an idea of where theyll end up. It does sound right for her though she def has that ability. The current school is good enough I just dont think she is in a good learning environment and i dont think the teachers are taking that seriously enough. In her class theyre all messing around and they all seem to turn on her almost continuously.

BertrandRussell Tue 07-Mar-17 08:46:23

Are they set?

BertrandRussell Tue 07-Mar-17 08:48:31

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the automated -for want of a better word- system predicts 9s so that must have combeen from ththe school.

How do their high achievers do?

Comingupcabbages Tue 07-Mar-17 08:52:52

Definitely give it a try, my ds has two friends on full bursaries at private schools (one is a top public school which includes uniform, transport and some trips).

I have two at state and one in private. The fees are 20k a year but the trips are fewer and cheaper than the ones my dc state schools.
It's a bit of a myth in my experience about all the extras.

Comingupcabbages Tue 07-Mar-17 08:55:06

Looneytune25 I was a bit perplexed by this predicting system, I asked about it at the latest parents evening. It's the computer program that the teachers didn't seem to understand themselves when I asked confused

LIZS Tue 07-Mar-17 09:46:06

I wouldn't worry too much about messing about in year 7. They are still finding their feet, friendships swap around and they haven't been ability grouped or chosen options. If the current school can achieve good results the positive environment is there.

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