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Mumofthreelondon Mon 23-Jan-17 21:07:16

Any views on Whitgift or Dulwich. DS is bright and sporty. Whitgift is far from us but we liked it.

Noitsnotteatimeyet Mon 23-Jan-17 22:53:55

Which is nearest to you? They're both good schools and I think it would be madness to pass by one en route to the other. Bright and sporty boys will do equally well at either.

Mumofthreelondon Tue 24-Jan-17 08:51:36

Thanks ! we re in Earl's Court so neither is close ... but Dulwich is nearer. Dulwich seems more talked about (a bigger name?) Or maybe just because we are in london ?
DS is incredibly sporty and it seems like whitgift sports are a few notches above Dulwich while academics are similar? Is that the right perception ?

Needmoresleep Tue 24-Jan-17 08:56:23

Unless you plan to move, look at journey times. Whitgift is a real trek. How far does the Dulwich bus go? I know it covers a large swathe of West London, which would mean reasonably local friends. From where you are surely LU or Hampton is more sensible, or one of the North London schools, Highgatge?, or perhaps Emanuel if you have access to the railway line going down to Clapham Junction.

TFL journey planner is your friend along with a knowledge of school bus routes.

Needmoresleep Tue 24-Jan-17 08:57:33

Unless you are talking hockey, or perhaps swimming I don't think Whitgift would be considered more sporty.

LIZS Tue 24-Jan-17 08:58:54

Wouldn't sw London schools be more accessible or are you looking at boarding?

VivienneWestwood Tue 24-Jan-17 09:42:36

Our DS is at Dulwich and has a friend from Earls Court in his class. They gave up on taking the bus as it was often delayed causing them to miss the start of the school day, and wound up taking tube to Victoria and then overland to West Dulwich. Do-able but quite a trek.

Mumofthreelondon Tue 24-Jan-17 10:41:32

Thanks everyone. Yes I'm worried about the commute by train or car to either one actually. We aren't planning to move and we are day school focused but flexi boarding a few nights a week may make sense at Whitgift. There seems to be similar reputation and strong academics at both. I'm still convinced sports much stronger at whitgift but I could be wrong. Im general my impression (right or wrong) is that SW schools sport is not as strong as Dulwich or WG....

Needmoresleep Tue 24-Jan-17 16:04:32

It really depends what you mean by good school sport. Some schools (Westminster is an example) are very good at participation, ie getting unsporty kids to find their niche sport, but first team standards can be low. Others have great first teams but don't do much for the rest.

By secondary the better sportspeople will be playing for Club and County. This is certainly true of Whitgift hockey. To some extent then it does not matter how good the school sport is, indeed you might prefer to be free to turn up for a County game rather than be required to play for the school. And if your DS is stuck in a car/bus/train for hours each day they wont be able to play club sport.

Driving to Croydon twice each day from Earls Court is a bonkers idea. Try if for a few days and the problems become clear. (Not least South London seems the epicentre for burst water mains.)

KGS has good sport.I dont know much about the boys, but the girls do well.

AnotherNewt Tue 24-Jan-17 21:20:29

"whitgift sports are a few notches above Dulwich while academics are similar? Is that the right perception ?"

Very controversial opinion!

Which sports is he interested in? Dulwich excel in some - look at their record in the national schools rugby in recent years.

Which school would you prefer to get to for events, parents' evenings and fixtures? Do you think your DS would find that the easier journey too?

Mumofthreelondon Wed 25-Jan-17 15:50:05

Thanks for all the input - yes I'm sure both sports are strong - I was just blown away w whitgift sport but that could just be misperceptions on my part! Dulwich is def easier drivingwise. Right now google maps show 37 min drive to Dulwich v 1 hr to whitgift. DS is into football and running. Not rugby.

bigTillyMint Wed 25-Jan-17 15:59:18

Sorry, but I cannot believe you could get to Dulwich from Earls Court in 37 mins and especially not in rush hour traffic.

I live 3 miles away and it takes me at least 20mins at school start time. It is manic round Dulwich with 3 private schoils and numerous state schools in the close area.

Is there nowhere nearer where you live?

Mumofthreelondon Wed 25-Jan-17 16:11:06

You're probably right about travel time - We have a spot much closer by (20 min) at a strong academic school. I'm just worried sports aren't strong enough for DS -

Mumofthreelondon Wed 25-Jan-17 16:31:18

If you had both to choose from and they were equidistant which one would you choose Whitgift or Dulwich ?!?

AnotherNewt Wed 25-Jan-17 17:47:19

You won't want to be driving all through the secondary years.

What are the public transport options really like - when carrying a backpack and a sports grip?

West Brompton overground to Clapham Junction, then train to Croydon? Or early down there and catch one of the Foundation a coaches to Dulwich?

If your DS is serious about football, is he on the junior programme of a club? Where's that?

meditrina Wed 25-Jan-17 17:51:27

I'd choose Dulwich under Joe Spence every time.

The idea that Dulwich is anything other than excellent at sport is risible to me. But perhaps see if you can talk to the Director of Sports in the margins when your DS is interviewed and see if he can give you more info that will help you decide should you get offers from both.

Is he applying as a sports scholar? Not available at Dulwich until 13+, but if Whitgift offer him one, that might make your choice a bit simpler too.

Needmoresleep Wed 25-Jan-17 17:51:51

It would depend absolutely on the child. And sport. Whitgift might be more arty, and DC more trad, but fwiw I know several families who have been delighted with the way DC's structure and pastoral care has done wonders for their absent minded 11 year olds.

When did you look at Google maps. Try at 8.00am. Its the number of schools you pass on route that will be part of the problem, each with their own school run.

Leeds2 Wed 25-Jan-17 18:27:55

Personally, if it was a choice between the two schools, I would choose Dulwich over Whitgift. But both journeys sound horrendous from where you live and, in reality, I would choose the one with the easier, quicker journey.

AnotherNewt Wed 25-Jan-17 19:03:04

If you're not already on it, you might find this an interesting thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/education/2810767-ALL-NEW-WHITGIFT-TRINITY-DULWICH-CATERHAM-10-11-2017

Mumofthreelondon Wed 25-Jan-17 22:38:14

Thanks that thread is interesting!! My DS is 13 plus

Mumofthreelondon Wed 25-Jan-17 23:00:17

Thanks for all the helpful views . Train is West Brompton to Croydon and change to a Croydon for us for WG and it's definitely further. Plus I'm kind of overprotective so I wouldn't want DS on train alone till he is older. Dulwich have a schoolbus from kings road which would be handy. We went for sports assessments at both. If whitgift we may need the flexi boarding a few nights to ease the commute. DC sports also sound top. Thanks again everyone! Very helpful

Mumofthreelondon Sun 12-Feb-17 08:50:03

Thanks again for all advice. DS has a scholarship offer to W and we are thinking the great opportunity merits sorting out the commute. Any parents who are doing the commute from Earl's Court to Whitgift please advise me! train, drive, flexiboarding? What do you do??

Noitsnotteatimeyet Sun 12-Feb-17 09:37:24

Definitely flexiboarding in your ds's case - there no way I'd inflict that commute everyday on a 13 year old boy trying to get to grips with a new school especially with lots of sport and extra curricular stuff on top. Whitgift is a great school but it's quite full on and he doesn't want to start off completely exhausted - well done to him!

Mumofthreelondon Sun 12-Feb-17 09:50:16

Yes that's makes sense - flexiboarding looks a very good option as he will have both sport and singing obligations with the scholarship and I would not want him exhausted !!!

Mumofthreelondon Sun 12-Feb-17 09:50:55

So happy they offer the flexi boarding there which seems truly flexible which is kind of unusual -

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