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Year 8 grades to predict gcse grades.

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Iamnotminterested Mon 19-Sep-16 21:11:38

That's it.

DD has predicted GCSE grades of 8 and 9. What should she be aiming for at the end of year 8 to be on track?

Thasks smile

HereIAm20 Mon 19-Sep-16 21:18:15

Our school will still use the same gradings as the gcse so will show 8 and 9 if they are at the level that will give an 8 or 9 at the end of year 11.

FlyingFortress Mon 19-Sep-16 21:27:32

Some schools are setting themselves for a tough time in future...

How many schools are predicting 9s to future cohorts, when the first cohort to be awarded them have yet to be examined?

titchy Mon 19-Sep-16 21:28:07

No one knows what a level 8 or 9 looks like as no exams with this grading have taken place. Therefore it is absolutely impossible for MN to say what grades she should be at in year 8!

noblegiraffe Mon 19-Sep-16 21:31:11

Fuck knows. I don't even know what my Y11s are going to get. And each school will be doing something different since they scrapped levels.

SAHDthatsall Mon 19-Sep-16 21:57:53

It's when you read shite like this then I feel even more justified in paying for sons' education!

titchy Mon 19-Sep-16 22:03:39

Why SAHD? Do they do different exams at private schools?

tiggytape Mon 19-Sep-16 22:42:25

Some of them do titchy. For example some willingly accept a 0% in the league tables as a small price to pay for sticking with iGCSEs instead of the new GCSEs which have been so heavily messed around with overhauled.
State schools do not do this.

As for grade 9 predictions - there is simply no way of knowing what a child on target to get a grade 9 looked like 3 years before achieving that grade 9. So far, nobody has been awarded one.
All that is known is that the top few % of children nationally will be awarded a grade 9 for each subject. So a child who was on track (under the old system) to achieve not only an A* but to be in the top third or so of all children achieving an A* grade is probably on the right track for a grade 9.
However it is doubtful whether any school - especially at this stage - would know so far in advance exactly where a pupil aiming at A or above is going to rank nationally compared to all the other "A and above" students who will sit the same exam in 2020.

noblegiraffe Tue 20-Sep-16 00:09:59

Schools won't be randomly predicting Y8 kids grade 9s, they're computer generated FFT targets. Our Y8s have certainly had their GCSe targets since last year, with a bunch of level 9s, even though the consultation to decide how many level 9s to award hadn't even closed! Now they've reduced the number of 9s in maths by 3000, I wonder if the targets will be amended.

We don't give them to the parents though, there's no point as they'll change so much over the coming years. Schools never used to give GCSE grades in Y7 because it was obviously stupid, but now they've scrapped levels loads of schools are doing it because they've got nothing else to give.

SAHDthatsall Tue 20-Sep-16 08:39:53

Titchy - they just grade them as inline with expected performance or above or below expectations. Plus effort grades. Only need to do anything if they're below executed level in any subject.

SAHDthatsall Tue 20-Sep-16 08:40:18

'Expected level'!! smile

Traalaa Tue 20-Sep-16 09:03:42

SAHDthatsall, my son's state school does the same as your private and some private schools definitely do the grade prediction thing too. My niece is under incredible stress at her private school, as they give them new grade targets every half term. Purely anecdotal, but honestly you can't generalise - seems to me there's incredible pressure on the kids in both sectors.

CauliflowerSqueeze Wed 21-Sep-16 22:14:20

SAHD - unless you are being ironic, saying you feel even more justified for paying for your son's education when you read this "shite" is ridiculous. The only difference is that you are paying to be told the school has no idea what the grades will look like, because nobody knows, while others are hearing it for free.

SAHDthatsall Wed 21-Sep-16 22:52:01

Yeah sure.
They're using the same grading method they have for years. No need to make predications, no point.

CauliflowerSqueeze Wed 21-Sep-16 23:02:13

Well predictions are useful for students because they need to know what sixth form courses are open to them with particular grades. And for universities to be able to make offers. There is a point, and your school will be making predictions definitely, because that's how they base their interventions. They may not share them with pupils and parents I suppose.

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