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Who didn't get a secondary school place?

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Greengagesummer Mon 07-Mar-16 14:23:10

I understand some in London Borough of Richmond upon Thames LBRUT didn't.
Anyone else? Any news on waiting lists?

tiggytape Mon 07-Mar-16 14:40:19

It isn't unheard of for some London boroughs to do this I think Sutton as well as Richmond have in previous years at keast.
It means that none of the schools listed by the family could offer a place on March 1st but the borough is confident something local and/or from one of the waiting lists will come up. The borough still has to come up with a place eventually if that doesn't happen of course.

In Kent and other areas last year lots of people were given schools they hadn’t listed. They couldn't have one from their list so had been found an alternative for national offers day but not always one that was close to home and not even a school they'd even heard of. This too caused a lot of worry and upset.

Some London boroughs seem to take the view that, as they anticipate the pattern of rejections so well, a place will either come up at one of the listed schools within weeks or a space at a school close-ish to the family's home will come up so therefore there's nothing to be gained by allocating the nearest school place left on March 1st when it is 10+ miles away and almost certainly won't be the final offer anyway.

I know parents have mixed feelings about this.
Some would rather have an offer - any offer - even if it is ridiculously far away and not a school they want just so they feel they are in the system and not forgotten and have something to work with.
Others would rather have nothing initially than a 'ridiculous' offer and feel reassured that it means they are expected to eventually get something closer to home.

tiggytape Mon 07-Mar-16 14:41:16

And waiting list news will be another week or so at least. The deadline for accepting places doesn't pass until next week and then the process of counting up vacancies and starting to reallocate them begins (and usually stops for Easter then begins again)

Ladymuck Mon 07-Mar-16 14:57:25

Presumably Richmond is also in an odd position where over 30% of secondary pupils opt for independent schools, but may well have also submitted a CAF, so the movement is more significant than some other boroughs.

Propitia Mon 07-Mar-16 15:37:05

Chicken & egg in Richmond. People apply for private because they know that the chance of a good school is v low in certain areas of the borough, which is shaped like a banana. Council nominally provides enough places but hasn't put much effort into improving poor schools historically. So, if residents can afford it whatever way (& income per head must be higher than neighbouring Hounslow) they will go private. Doesn't mean that they wouldn't choose a local secondary if a good one was available - or even one that wasn't failing.

tiggytape Mon 07-Mar-16 16:51:08

A few London boroughs have similar quirks with high numbers attending private schools (although Richmond's figure probably tops most).
Others have selective schools that make them net importers of out of area children (or did at least in previous years - I know many have introduced priority areas even if they are quite large) and many are smaller boroughs with people on the boundary lines naturally attend out of borough schools by choice.
Didn't Richmond once use a feeder school system to try to promote Richmond primary school children getting into Richmond secondary schools because of the proximity to the Kingston boundary and lack of school places there?

cerealBar Mon 07-Mar-16 17:24:12

Richmond got rid of its linked school system a couple of years ago. It was well past it's prime because the most popular schools were so oversubscribed that many students didn't get places even with a link. Also students at schools without links lost out and sometimes used to change schools in Year 5 just so they could get a link.

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