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Shooting as an activity on a school residential trip for Year 7s

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BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 11:56:46

Acceptable? Yes or no?

AuntieStella Tue 10-Nov-15 11:58:10

Not a problem to me, assuming proper range standards.

Seeline Tue 10-Nov-15 12:00:45

My Ds has done this with Cubs and Scouts (air rifles I think) and has really enjoyed it. Fine as long all the safety measures are in place and Instructors are properly qualified.
I think it's a nice option on an activity holiday as it gives a chance for those that aren't good at climbing/assault courses/daredevils to shine.

BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 12:45:21

Not an option, however.

honeysucklejasmine Tue 10-Nov-15 12:47:31

I am not sure it can possibly be compulsory, as you suggest. If you don't want your child doing it, say so. They'll prob have to sit on sidelines and watch unless they are significant numbers also withdrawing.

Shooting is an Olympic sport, after all.

BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 12:48:55

The trip isn't compulsory, but if you go on it (and the DC are expected to) then shooting is part and parcel of it.

randomsabreuse Tue 10-Nov-15 12:50:58

Fine - so long as fully qualified instructors etc in place. Good to have something skills based!

honeysucklejasmine Tue 10-Nov-15 12:56:43

I really don't think they can force a gun in to your child's hand and make them shoot.

Have you had a word with the organiser?

titchy Tue 10-Nov-15 13:08:37

What's the problem? They won't be shooting each other I assume.

IndridCold Tue 10-Nov-15 13:35:02

It is very good discipline for encouraging quiet and concentration. A properly run session spends time on the safety briefings, which are a valuable reminder that guns are dangerous and must always be handled correctly.

Finally, as a PP has pointed out, it often happens that the non-sporty DCs shine in this discipline.

So in short, no problem at all.

MrsLeighHalfpenny Tue 10-Nov-15 13:39:49

What's the problem? If they make shooting optional, they'll have to make all the activities optional, which a) would be a night mare to administer, and b) is not the point of a school trip.

Everyone has to do things they don't like sometimes, if they are doing something as part of a group. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

What exactly is your point? Do you want to be able to opt DS out (and if so, why), or what??

MrsLeighHalfpenny Tue 10-Nov-15 13:40:27

And would you also complain about, say, archery?

BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 14:04:55

They will be ski-ing as well as shooting (biathlon), in the snow, so it's not an opt-out for non-sporty DC.

BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 14:05:44

I'm not complaining, btw. Some parents are complaining so I thought I'd canvass opinion on here to see what general thoughts came up.

Witchend Tue 10-Nov-15 14:13:32

We did CCF in school. The school had a whole armoury and a range. Adds to my street cred with ds' friends when I mention it grin

yeOldeTrout Tue 10-Nov-15 14:14:44

Cor, blimey, biathlon? Snow? Posh school, eh?

It would be fine by me & I would look a bit hmm at another parent making a big fuss about it. Just send 'em on another trip this yr if you don't like.

BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 14:17:21

I can assure you the trip isn't "posh" in any shape or form grin. The accommodation looks appropriately grim and foreboding wink

MrsLeighHalfpenny Tue 10-Nov-15 14:17:31

If you (not you OP) don't like the contents of a trip, don't sign up for it.

MsMargaretHale Tue 10-Nov-15 14:52:03

What exactly is the problem?
Danger? Shooting is less dangerous than skiing, riding, rugby etc. The sessions will presumably be run with safety as paramount.
Ethics? They will (I assume) be shooting targets not people or animals! Biathalon is an olympic sport.
Most children love shooting!

BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 14:53:44

Some people have ethical objections to teaching DC to use guns.

yeOldeTrout Tue 10-Nov-15 15:22:17

I hate guns but thought it was brilliant that there opportunities exist for gun-crazy DS to learn to shoot with people who would keep banging on about the safety aspects.

originalmavis Tue 10-Nov-15 15:25:34

What type of gun? The only think I'd object to is an oozie or a crossbow (hate thiose things).

BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 15:41:31

Biathlon is rifle-shooting.

Draylon Tue 10-Nov-15 17:43:46

I think the opportunity to learn how to handle a gun safely goes a long way towards demystifying and de-glamorising them. I think the first time a DC gets a bit of a kick-back, even from an air rifle, they get the feeling that the FPS computer games they play aren't true-to-life.

I mean, and sorry if this doesn't seem relevant given the numbers involved- it's not generally the posh, upper class to-the-manor-born DC who go on their first shoot, dressed in tweeds, aged 12, desperate to follow the rules and be accepted by the grown-ups at the shoot- that end up being the hand-gun toutin' street fightin' killers, do they?! The posh kid would be verbally eviscerated were he to start waving a closed gun around!

And similarly, interestingly, we as very young DC were taught how to safely reload a shotgun at school, so we could do so should the need arise if our parents' homestead came under attack! (East Africa, a long time ago). The older DC, 10+, learned how to actually shoot in very controlled, disciplined circumstances. All of us have a deep respect for guns, as a result.

And surely a posh school if biathlon is compulsory??! grin

BoboChic Tue 10-Nov-15 17:46:28

This is France, Draylon, where ski-ing residentials with school are pretty much compulsory! Biathlon is a variant on a theme (because so many DC do downhill ski-ing as a matter of course with family). I can assure you there is absolutely nothing glamorous about the destination or conditions they are going in - bog standard French residential destination.

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