# Talk

## DD sat 6 Maths +Further Maths AS modules, but only 1 AS on the results paper???

(16 Posts)
Vanillachocolate Thu 13-Aug-15 09:30:15

What does this mean?

She sat C1, C2, C3, FP1, M1, M2 but exam paper shows only AS Maths ???

FishWithABicycle Thu 13-Aug-15 09:44:52

Which exam board?
Do you have the individual scores for each module?

Thu 13-Aug-15 10:11:41

Don't worry it's normal!
She will be doing the combined Maths course where Year one covers the full maths A level and Year two the Further maths. The school only "cash in" the maths AS at this stage.
Next year they look at all 13 maths modules and allocate them towards two full A levels.

Vanillachocolate Thu 13-Aug-15 15:10:53

DD back from school with more details.

Yes, indeed, the school only cashed in one AS and apparently DD has 276 "Mark Equiv" and 135 "points" in Maths for C1, C1 and M1 (MEI), which I am told is very good.

However, could anyone explain what are those Mark Equivs and Points and how are they calculated? Are they UMS and UCAS points respectively?

What is the total number of Mark Equivs for each paper and in total?

I have the grade boundaries, but I don't have the actual marks to make sense of this.

I think they should have n A level in understanding of Maths A level!

Pneumometer Thu 13-Aug-15 21:29:27

Are they UMS and UCAS points respectively?

No. The 276 is UMS. Forgot about UCAS points: if your daughter is getting 276 UMS (a very high A, so she only needs a high C to get an overall A at A2) then she won't be applying anywhere where UCAS points are relevant.

AtiaoftheJulii Fri 14-Aug-15 10:15:32

It's because of the requirements for the AS and A2.

AS maths would be C1, C2 and M1 from your list.
For A2 maths you need C3, C4 and an applied.
AS FM is FP1 plus probably a couple of applied, not C3.
And then A2 FM is the last three modules, usually FP2 and two more applied.

Next year the 12 modules get juggled around to give the optimum grades across the two, using rather complicated criteria!

Sounds like she's got great marks Ignore the points column.

AtiaoftheJulii Fri 14-Aug-15 10:18:33

So from your list, they could either pull out AS maths as being C1, C2, M1, or could allocate FP1, M1, M2 to AS FM - so they wait until all the modules are done to allocate them in the best way.

So how do you tell if they have cashed in AS's?
DS2s module marks were

C1 100
C2 98
S1 100
The normal maths teacher taught these

FP1 93
M1 97
D1 86
taught by FM teacher

The summary said Maths 298/300 A
FM 276/300 A

does this mean they have been cashed in? I would have though it would be better to wait and see what he gets nexzt year and allocate some o his better modules to FM.Can someone shed light? I have just about got my head round A*s in other subjects but I understand maths is different?
PS Ds is really annoyed about the D1 module which has fouled things up.He says it is more logic than maths, bbut didn't have any choice about doing it.

Fri 14-Aug-15 14:33:40

madam It sounds like your DS is doing Maths AS and Further Maths AS in Y12 and the A2 papers in Y13. So in his case they may have cashed them all in.
The course the OP's DC and mine did was different in that all maths modules done in Y12 and all FM ones done in Y13.

Gemauve Fri 14-Aug-15 14:59:43

Ds is really annoyed about the D1 module which has fouled things up.He says it is more logic than maths

It has no logic in it (well, the Ex Excel and OCR ones don't); it's a slightly ragged collection of sorting, searching, packing and graph traversal algorithms, and unfortunately it omits the main thing that would make it interesting; it's crazy to teach a couple of sorting algorithms and then not include big-O complexity notation, which is the main reason those algorithms are interesting!

It does, however, have notoriously high grade boundaries (ie, the rate of exchange from raw marks to scaled marks is not favourable) because it's not terribly challenging.

AtiaoftheJulii Fri 14-Aug-15 15:22:55

And 86 hasn't fouled anything up either. D1 isn't going to count towards an A2 A* at all, only to the overall ums, and 86 is fine for that - with those marks so far, if he gets what he needs/wants for an A* next year, he's almost guaranteed to get over the 480 barrier. For the maths marking, they only need a reasonably decent score in the applied/non-A2 modules.

I can't be sure of course, but I thought that the way most schools did it was that yesterday's results might show AS grades, but if the student carries on to A2, that they will automatically free up all the modules to be rejigged next year.

AtiaoftheJulii Fri 14-Aug-15 15:26:02

The course the OP's DC and mine did was different in that all maths modules done in Y12 and all FM ones done in Y13.

That's not what the OP's dc has done; there's an FP1 in there instead of C4

so , apart from core papers (ie C & FP), can any module it into either Maths or FM and AS or A2?

Fri 14-Aug-15 19:18:46

Apologies Atia I missed that.