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If someone's starts an a level course at 18

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Goodtimes90 Thu 08-Jan-15 14:26:25

Would the school get funding as the person started the course before they turned 19.

titchy Thu 08-Jan-15 14:45:32

Schools get sixth form funding for 16/17 year olds, 17/18 year olds and 18/19 year olds, so as long as the young person started in the September of the year in which they were 19 they would be funded for that year. However they wouldn't be funded for the second year so it would be unlikely a school would accept them.

Goodtimes90 Thu 08-Jan-15 14:58:36

I can still claim child benfit for him until 20.

titchy Thu 08-Jan-15 15:21:52

It stops once he's 20 https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit/eligibility

ages and school years don't tally - someone could be ineligible for a free FT A level course because they've used up their three 'post-year 11' years of being funded but still be 18 if they have an August birthday, whereas someone who tuned 19 in October would still be eligible until they were almost 20.

titchy Thu 08-Jan-15 15:33:07

Page 15 is quite clear regarding age:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/383953/Funding_regulations_2014-15_-Version_1a.pdf

springlamb Thu 08-Jan-15 15:39:21

Isn't it still the case that a 19 yr old gets their first Level 4 course (such as an Access to HE) course for £100.
So if the 18 yr old was hoping that the A level course would lead onto university, would it be an option to do relevant work/volunteering until the Aug/Sept following their 19th birthday then enrol for a Access Course in a particular area of study.
If this is a real life situation, that might be an avenue to check.

titchy Thu 08-Jan-15 15:46:08

Access course are level 3 not level 4. A good idea to look at Access courses though. Or look at an FE college, they would have to pay the fees for the second year but at least they'd be able to do a two year course at the same provider.

Goodtimes90 Thu 08-Jan-15 17:09:15

Is it different for Sen students

springrain Thu 08-Jan-15 23:00:07

Can you talk to your SENCO? I would have thought that if it is in the best interest of your DS to be in education they should be looking at that as the key determinant and the SENCO should be able to help you through this. They would be getting funding for Y12 and in Y13, whilst they will not get funding, they are not going to lose money as presumably they already have a teacher for the class for other pupils. Plus unless the school is at capacity in Y12 they are still better off having him than not as they have had 1 year's worth of funding.

If this doesn't work could he pick fewer A levels and do in 1 year instead? For example a lot of schools will do maths A level in 1 year to allow further maths to be done in Y13. You could talk to head of 6th form about this and whether his subjects would lend themselves to this.

springlamb Fri 09-Jan-15 15:30:53

It might be different for students with SEN if they attend a specialist resource with provision to 21/25 ( I'm thinking Treloar, Star, Hereward type places). For those of us with dc who choose NOT to attend specialist provision, it's a nightmare!
DS is November born. He had a 3 year specialist residential SEN placement for year 12/13/14 so was nearly 20 when this ended last July. The SEN provision was unable to offer A Levels, though he has ended up with more GCSEs than all the rest of us put together. He did not want to board again so we were on our own. Our only options were BTEC level 3 (but they could not support his disability) or Access course.
Now of course we're into UCAS...

springlamb Fri 09-Jan-15 15:33:20

I should say to be fair there were lots of options for courses that DS would rather have stuck pins in his own eyes than attend! He wanted something in a particular sphere.

tobysmum77 Fri 09-Jan-15 16:36:37

This isn't about child benefit it's about the funding schools/ providers get.

16-18 year olds are funded by the EFA. 19+ by the SFA. The ages are as of the 1st September I think. So my understanding would be that the first year would be funded via a study programme than the second by the SFA as long as A levels are eligible. Of course schools dont have SFA contracts, I would try discussing this with an FE college.

tobysmum77 Fri 09-Jan-15 16:39:36

and if you achieved AS levels in year 1 then you wouldn't be entitled to SFA for a level 3 programme

titchy Fri 09-Jan-15 17:30:32

Tobysmum - not sure about that - most A level courses haven't yet been decoupled so the AS is integral to the full qualification. You're right re the funding though.

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